SSTEEL 0 Posted June 22, 2014 And what did they say about those labelled photos you showed them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kcore 0 Posted June 22, 2014 However not sure if that is the case on these new breed movements. Can someone confirm? I've also noticed that the Tudor BB v2 have these movements Hey SSTEEL, I've heard these being referred to as DG-2813-2S. But just like the CH8836, there's still some debate over whether it actually is that. I'm also wondering about movements that don't have engravings but do have clamps. Would they just be regular Sea-Gull or Hangzhou clones, or are they these new breed ones as well? Zero, you hear and notice a lot of things. I'd like to know when and where did you "notice" that the .v2 BB has these POS movts.? Hearing is 2nd hand info from someone else, but "noticing" on the other hand says you've seen it yourself. So where did you see the v2 BB with the POS movt.? Do you own a v2 BB that has this movt.? You've seen more than 1 v2 BB with this POS movt.? What's the deal? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hornet 1 Posted June 22, 2014 And what did they say about those labelled photos you showed them? Like water off a ducks back Micky, ignored them and kept on bangin' on about the fact that the factory could only supply A or B movements, there was no other..... ......living in a river in Egypt really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gran 198 Posted June 22, 2014 And what did they say about those labelled photos you showed them? Like water off a ducks back Micky, ignored them and kept on bangin' on about the fact that the factory could only supply A or B movements, there was no other..... ......living in a river in Egypt really. TheNile? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hornet 1 Posted June 22, 2014 And what did they say about those labelled photos you showed them? Like water off a ducks back Micky, ignored them and kept on bangin' on about the fact that the factory could only supply A or B movements, there was no other..... ......living in a river in Egypt really. TheNile? Da....nile Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zero_deficit 0 Posted June 24, 2014 I said I noticed it in BBv2, noticing it is not by any means an authoritative statement that they all have it. Nonetheless I apologise that I wasn't more clear with my statement. Those photos looked like they have clamps, but I can't tell. That is also why I asked to clarify in my previous posts in this thread if not having markings, but having clamps was indicative of anything Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SSTEEL 0 Posted June 24, 2014 Thats an ETA clone, as yu say, it has dial feet hooks/clamps whereas the POS Clone has screws. That being said, the balance area looks similar to the POS Clone, but the clamps indicate ETA Clone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kcore 0 Posted June 24, 2014 I said I noticed it in BBv2, noticing it is not by any means an authoritative statement that they all have it. Nonetheless I apologise that I wasn't more clear with my statement. Those photos looked like they have clamps, but I can't tell. That is also why I asked to clarify in my previous posts in this thread if not having markings, but having clamps was indicative of anything Thanks Zero! No need to apologize, I know you are a top guy and add quality discussion over at RWI, so I was sure you'd clarify. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
z k 0 Posted June 25, 2014 I emailed the TD I purchased my Omega PO rep from. It looks like mine has a 2813 movement in it when I ordered a 2836 clone. I don't know what my options are now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SSTEEL 0 Posted June 25, 2014 Post photos of your movement when you get it, and if it is indeed a POS Clone, then you can try and resolve with the TD you purchased the watch, as its not as advertised. But, they will argue, it is as advertised until they are blue in the mouth. :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
agntkerr 0 Posted June 25, 2014 Post photos of your movement when you get it, and if it is indeed a POS Clone, then you can try and resolve with the TD you purchased the watch, as its not as advertised. But, they will argue, it is as advertised until they are blue in the mouth. :( Isnt that the truth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
z k 0 Posted June 25, 2014 (edited) Post photos of your movement when you get it, and if it is indeed a POS Clone, then you can try and resolve with the TD you purchased the watch, as its not as advertised. But, they will argue, it is as advertised until they are blue in the mouth. :( So far the response has been that BP doesn't make any Omega PO with 2813 movement at all so no way can it be a 2813... Edited June 25, 2014 by z k Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hornet 1 Posted June 25, 2014 I emailed the TD I purchased my Omega PO rep from. It looks like mine has a 2813 movement in it when I ordered a 2836 clone. I don't know what my options are now? I did exactly what Micky is suggesting you do, but the TD was in denial that I'd got a 2813 movement in the watch he'd sold me, to be fair he did offer to take it back, but I'd already gone down the route of giving it to Micky for some TLC on other failures at that point (Micky discovered it was a 2813 rather than the 2836....) and took the plunge to have an ETA movement fitted by Micky. Which TD was it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
helmet993 0 Posted June 25, 2014 I said I noticed it in BBv2, noticing it is not by any means an authoritative statement that they all have it. Nonetheless I apologise that I wasn't more clear with my statement. Those photos looked like they have clamps, but I can't tell. That is also why I asked to clarify in my previous posts in this thread if not having markings, but having clamps was indicative of anything Thats an ETA clone, as yu say, it has dial feet hooks/clamps whereas the POS Clone has screws. That being said, the balance area looks similar to the POS Clone, but the clamps indicate ETA Clone. How come no ETA stampings then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
z k 0 Posted June 25, 2014 I emailed the TD I purchased my Omega PO rep from. It looks like mine has a 2813 movement in it when I ordered a 2836 clone. I don't know what my options are now? I did exactly what Micky is suggesting you do, but the TD was in denial that I'd got a 2813 movement in the watch he'd sold me, to be fair he did offer to take it back, but I'd already gone down the route of giving it to Micky for some TLC on other failures at that point (Micky discovered it was a 2813 rather than the 2836....) and took the plunge to have an ETA movement fitted by Micky. Which TD was it? Trusty Time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hornet 1 Posted June 25, 2014 I emailed the TD I purchased my Omega PO rep from. It looks like mine has a 2813 movement in it when I ordered a 2836 clone. I don't know what my options are now? I did exactly what Micky is suggesting you do, but the TD was in denial that I'd got a 2813 movement in the watch he'd sold me, to be fair he did offer to take it back, but I'd already gone down the route of giving it to Micky for some TLC on other failures at that point (Micky discovered it was a 2813 rather than the 2836....) and took the plunge to have an ETA movement fitted by Micky. Which TD was it? Trusty Time OK, so it's not the same as with me.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
z k 0 Posted June 25, 2014 Here is a quick phone pic of the back of the watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SSTEEL 0 Posted July 11, 2014 Updated thread title to reflect the name of this POS Clone. Raddave from our sister site, RWI has confirmed with the following image that this POS Clone is in actual fact a.... SB1HRZ2 Finally an official model number for it! RWI http://www.replica-w...957#post1899957 SB1HRZ2 (LEFT) ETA 2830 (RIGHT) Notice how the SB1HRZ2 still has the auto wind bridge fitted in the photo below, thats because when you remove it, the gears are left loose onto of the movement rear, and not housed in the bridge like thew ETA, and ETA clones. POS CLONE = SB1HRZ2 by Micky.!, on Flickr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SSTEEL 0 Posted July 11, 2014 Chinese Movements by Micky.!, on Flickr Some more info with correct model number can be found on WUS, and the link below.. http://forums.watchuseek.com/f72/new-movement-id-1033426.html http://www.iwatch365.com/thread-16972225-1-1.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10:10 Watch Repair 1 Posted July 11, 2014 How come no ETA stampings then? Because they don't all have them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
z k 0 Posted July 11, 2014 Why make a copy of the Asian 2836? Is this much cheaper than a A2836? That makes no sense.. it's a copy of a copy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SSTEEL 0 Posted July 11, 2014 Its called the Z2 for short on the Chinese, and Shanghai forums I have been reading. Well, with a translator, which gives an amusing translation lol. There is a SB1HRZ2-1 as well, but this is 17 jewels, and low beat 21600. Low Beat Z2-1 by Micky.!, on Flickr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10:10 Watch Repair 1 Posted July 11, 2014 Why make a copy of the Asian 2836? Is this much cheaper than a A2836? That makes no sense.. it's a copy of a copy! The A2836 "retails" for around $90 The DG movements retail around $25 This movement is a big step towards the DG, so yes, it makes sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GenTLe 1,501 Posted July 13, 2014 Great info SSteel, thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
