Ishmael 92 Posted June 16, 2014 Hell just the fact we've been debating it so much here makes it all the more alluring for its controversy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conex 0 Posted June 16, 2014 Hell just the fact we've been debating it so much here makes it all the more alluring for its controversy! Exactly and at the end of the day, even if it is not a "Real authenticated watch" there are plenty of fantasy rep watches that are great and plenty of us wear. If you like it, buy it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 92 Posted June 16, 2014 Hell just the fact we've been debating it so much here makes it all the more alluring for its controversy! Exactly and at the end of the day, even if it is not a "Real authenticated watch" there are plenty of fantasy rep watches that are great and plenty of us wear. If you like it, buy it. Damn straight mate! By the way, made some progress on my recent sale thread... and you know what that means!!! vinTona-palooza! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conex 0 Posted June 16, 2014 Pictures when it lands my friend. Thank you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 92 Posted June 16, 2014 Pictures when it lands my friend. Thank you The wait will be agonizing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LHOOQ 0 Posted June 16, 2014 Thanks for the info mate. The plot thickens. There are actual websites dedicated to people discussing both the above topics as I am sure you are aware, with people for and against. Either way (and of course one has to be careful with any of the information they garner from the web) whatever the truth is, I would feel gutted for the buyer of this watch if the information you have gathered is true, and I'd spend some time pondering over the experts who authenticate for auctions,etc. Up to and including 2012, this was the 7th most expensive Rolex watch sold on auction or through private collectors: Yikes! I don't know where that scan comes from, but that's a lot of erroneous information in one short paragraph! 1. Paul Newman didn't wear a Daytona in "Winning", and no one has ever produced a publicity still of him wearing one for the movie. By most accounts, he first started wearing a 6239 in the 1970s, after getting one as a gift from his wife. 2. Rolex has never designed a watch for Ferrari. 3."Stainless steel coated with tritium", as _DC_ points out. Really calls into question the writer's expertise! 4. 37mm is a case measurement, not dial diameter. 5. The only Daytonas with enamel dials are a select few automatics. 6. Ref. 6565 is an Oyster Perpetual with a c.1030 movement! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conex 0 Posted June 16, 2014 Thanks for the info mate. The plot thickens. There are actual websites dedicated to people discussing both the above topics as I am sure you are aware, with people for and against. Either way (and of course one has to be careful with any of the information they garner from the web) whatever the truth is, I would feel gutted for the buyer of this watch if the information you have gathered is true, and I'd spend some time pondering over the experts who authenticate for auctions,etc. Up to and including 2012, this was the 7th most expensive Rolex watch sold on auction or through private collectors: Yikes! I don't know where that scan comes from, but that's a lot of erroneous information in one short paragraph! 1. Paul Newman didn't wear a Daytona in "Winning", and no one has ever produced a publicity still of him wearing one for the movie. By most accounts, he first started wearing a 6239 in the 1970s, after getting one as a gift from his wife. 2. Rolex has never designed a watch for Ferrari. 3."Stainless steel coated with tritium", as _DC_ points out. Really calls into question the writer's expertise! 4. 37mm is a case measurement, not dial diameter. 5. The only Daytonas with enamel dials are a select few automatics. 6. Ref. 6565 is an Oyster Perpetual with a c.1030 movement! I couldn't have put it better myself and weirdly enough, I watched Winning over the weekend. But one does still beg to ask, who authenticated it for sale. And you're right, his missus gave him his first Daytona in 1972, but it was a 6263 Black dial, not the 6239 white dial he predominantly wore in the 70s on a Bund that a lot of people think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LHOOQ 0 Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) I couldn't have put it better myself and weirdly enough, I watched Winning over the weekend. But one does still beg to ask, who authenticated it for sale. And you're right, his missus gave him his first Daytona in 1972, but it was a 6263 Black dial, not the 6239 white dial he predominantly wore in the 70s on a Bund that a lot of people think. I was able to find the article that entry came from (it shows up on a bunch of sites), but the author doesn't give any sources. Curiously, Googling "$267,203" only leads to those articles, so we can take that auction result with a grain of salt, too. Anyway, I'm writing too much text on a "Vintage Porn" thread, so allow me to atone: Backside of my 6239: Some of my favorite chronographs: I also like 1016s. A LOT: Lastly, a very special 5512: Edited June 16, 2014 by LHOOQ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DC_ 218 Posted June 16, 2014 I couldn't have put it better myself and weirdly enough, I watched Winning over the weekend. But one does still beg to ask, who authenticated it for sale. And you're right, his missus gave him his first Daytona in 1972, but it was a 6263 Black dial, not the 6239 white dial he predominantly wore in the 70s on a Bund that a lot of people think. I was able to find the article that entry came from (it shows up on a bunch of sites), but the author doesn't give any sources. Curiously, Googling "$267,203" only leads to those articles, so we can take that auction result with a grain of salt, too. Anyway, I'm writing too much text on a "Vintage Porn" thread, so allow me to atone: Backside of my 6239: Some of my favorite chronographs: I also like 1016s. A LOT: Lastly, a very special 5512: Quite a lot of sex wee just happened!!!! DC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conex 0 Posted June 16, 2014 I couldn't have put it better myself and weirdly enough, I watched Winning over the weekend. But one does still beg to ask, who authenticated it for sale. And you're right, his missus gave him his first Daytona in 1972, but it was a 6263 Black dial, not the 6239 white dial he predominantly wore in the 70s on a Bund that a lot of people think. I was able to find the article that entry came from (it shows up on a bunch of sites), but the author doesn't give any sources. Curiously, Googling "$267,203" only leads to those articles, so we can take that auction result with a grain of salt, too. Anyway, I'm writing too much text on a "Vintage Porn" thread, so allow me to atone: Backside of my 6239: Some of my favorite chronographs: I also like 1016s. A LOT: Lastly, a very special 5512: I agree. Conclusion=Everything we read on the internet should be taken with a pinch of the old saltiness. Nice collection by the way. Thank you for sharing on this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 92 Posted June 16, 2014 Alright mates - my gold 6263's just left Los Angeles (I'm in Oregon), so I should be getting them tomorrow or Wednesday!! Pics will be immediately forthcoming... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chats 1 Posted June 17, 2014 sighh..... okay.... gonna get the vintage tona, thanks guys, should have not click this thread quick question, lemania or the the bigger movement ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conex 0 Posted June 17, 2014 Alright mates - my gold 6263's just left Los Angeles (I'm in Oregon), so I should be getting them tomorrow or Wednesday!! Pics will be immediately forthcoming... Look forward to it mate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conex 0 Posted June 17, 2014 sighh..... okay.... gonna get the vintage tona, thanks guys, should have not click this thread quick question, lemania or the the bigger movement ? I think the general consensus, correct me if I am wrong, is the handwound Lemania (clone). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 92 Posted June 17, 2014 Yo yo cats and kittens - just bought two more vinTona's! The gold 6265 black dial, and the SS 6262 (pushers) with panda dial - as shown above courtesy of LHOOQ. Yay! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AgentSands 0 Posted June 17, 2014 Those Daytonas are beautiful. The black bezel and white dial is one of my favorites. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainFantastic 509 Posted June 17, 2014 sighh..... okay.... gonna get the vintage tona, thanks guys, should have not click this thread quick question, lemania or the the bigger movement ? I think the general consensus, correct me if I am wrong, is the handwound Lemania (clone). Agreed, keeps with the vintage feel of things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chats 1 Posted June 17, 2014 Cheers Conex and Laurence I will email Andrew now hahahaha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DC_ 218 Posted June 17, 2014 I know I've posted it a few times, but just put it on B&S strap and woah, it's just got even better! The sunshine helps! This thread needs more photos, come on people!!!! DC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonnybaws 5,280 Posted June 17, 2014 Lovely is that DC... Prefer my 6263 on leather too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LHOOQ 0 Posted June 17, 2014 When the bracelet comes off, I like to go with vintage Tropic rubber: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DC_ 218 Posted June 17, 2014 When the bracelet comes off, I like to go with vintage Tropic rubber: Where's this one from LHOOQ, she's an absolute stunner!! DC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LHOOQ 0 Posted June 17, 2014 Where's this one from LHOOQ, she's an absolute stunner!! Thanks, DC! I have a big collection of Tropic rubber straps from the 1960s and 1970s. Mostly for dive watches, but when I discovered that a 19mm curved Tropic fits a Daytona almost perfectly... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DC_ 218 Posted June 17, 2014 I meant where's the watch from, lol, it looks gen?! DC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 92 Posted June 17, 2014 It does look gen... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites