mysterio 18 Posted November 9, 2014 (edited) First rep Pam... the 438 full ceramic.... ordered with Ken form RWI ... not TD here ..looks an absolute cracker to me.. I can feel a bronzo looming I have excellent results with Ken Li!@@@ Any suggestions how can I get in touch with Ken, while RWI still down? thx, .d Why not order from kuvarsit since it's a KW watch? They're a TD here. Edited November 9, 2014 by mysterio Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ANDMAN.ELLIPSIS 0 Posted November 9, 2014 For my part..... I'm ordering with Ken as I have three being shipped together... simple economics ddaddy ..... perhaps they are the right TD's for you.... being TD here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ddaddy1982 0 Posted November 9, 2014 Thanks, will do Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragonette 0 Posted November 10, 2014 Im not as much of a PAM guru as some of you but I think the KW 438 O is pretty sweet. Re: real ceramic vs coated SS... I've had both and would never consider a non-ceramic rep of a ceramic gen again in the future. Ceramic making in China has become very good, and the feel, weight, and reflectivity of ceramic is unique. -Mach So you have or had the ceramic 438? If so can you provide anymore feedback? Would be appreciated Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALE7575 24 Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) I have already seem some QCpics of PAM 441 and PAM 438 ceramic I liked this case from the beginning and I said that in many posts in several forums. Pics pics and reviews confirm this point and this case-set is even better than I expected. This ceramic case-set seems really GEN Awsesome the lug contours, the bezel and cushion shape. Impressive CG with engravings, lever and chamfered corners exactly like gen This watch is made like a gen Nice to see the dial is OK regarding thickness of cutouts and lume colour. CP issue is not a big problem in real size. Almost no noticeable from a front view. We will e able of living with that. No comments about PAM441 caseback, because it is to be changed Of course Super reps in construction and quality but the movement with balance wheel @11 and inverted layout in PAM 441 (PAM 438 has non inverted movement) doesn't allow this Super status Leaving aside the movement, among the best reps we have ever seen. They are a must Read this review from RWI PCTeam's Polonus http://www.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php?t=200104 ALE Edited November 10, 2014 by ALE7575 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragonette 0 Posted November 11, 2014 Thanks Ale! Is there any more info on the bracelet? Because those aren't ceramic are they Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mysterio 18 Posted November 11, 2014 Thanks Ale! Is there any more info on the bracelet? Because those aren't ceramic are they Have you seen the actual bracelet to make that statement? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ANDMAN.ELLIPSIS 0 Posted November 11, 2014 Thanks Ale! Is there any more info on the bracelet? Because those aren't ceramic are they Polished plastic mate..... check description....but just keep it between you and me.... Size: 44mm x 18mm Movement: Base Movement: Asian 7750 automatic movement at 28800vph; Decoration: DLC plated the movement bridges and rotor which are made according to the genuine movement, the best looking P.9001/B Movement Clone at the moment. Functions: Hours, minutes, GMT, sub-seconds and date display Case: 1:1 replicated real Ceramic case (Same structure as genuine) Crystal: Scratch-proof sapphire crystal with colorless anti-reflection coating (Swiss standard, single-sided, same as genuine); Case back crystal also is scratch-proof sapphire crystal same as genuine Dial: Superlumed dial and hands (lumed with genuine Super-LumiNova); Flush Cannon Pinion as per genuine. Bezel: Ceramic bezel (screw in bezel, same as genuine) Strap: 1:1 replicated real genuine fabricated and rare polished plastic bracelet, same material and structure as genuine...but keep it a secret... just between you and me .. lol Clasp: Deployant clasp with correct engravings Water resistance: >50 Meters dragonette.... you need to do more research..... although not TD here PT are TD on RWI .... If they say ceramic... it's ceramic.. Gen PT blurb below Size: 44mm x 18mm Movement: Base Movement: Asian 7750 automatic movement at 28800vph; Decoration: DLC plated the movement bridges and rotor which are made according to the genuine movement, the best looking P.9001/B Movement Clone at the moment. Functions: Hours, minutes, GMT, sub-seconds and date display Case: 1:1 replicated real Ceramic case (Same structure as genuine) Crystal: Scratch-proof sapphire crystal with colorless anti-reflection coating (Swiss standard, single-sided, same as genuine); Case back crystal also is scratch-proof sapphire crystal same as genuine Dial: Superlumed dial and hands (lumed with genuine Super-LumiNova); Flush Cannon Pinion as per genuine. Bezel: Ceramic bezel (screw in bezel, same as genuine) Strap: 1:1 replicated real ceramic bracelet, same material and structure as genuine Clasp: Deployant clasp with correct engravings Water resistance: >50 Meters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALE7575 24 Posted November 12, 2014 Bracelet is ceramic for sure ALE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mysterio 18 Posted November 12, 2014 So not only do we have info on the bracelet, but we have info on the watch itself. Please read the thread below for my review. http://www.rwg.bz/board/index.php?showtopic=90206 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrie 1 Posted November 12, 2014 Thanks Ale! Is there any more info on the bracelet? Because those aren't ceramic are they No mate. Made from ground pubes and wax. Terrible things. Get a 111. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
droow 0 Posted January 20, 2015 Do we know if the cp issue has been fixed on these? Also the 28(9) issue and wasn't there something with the rear engraving. I'm looking to pick one of these up this week and would appreciate any advice. a Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mysterio 18 Posted January 22, 2015 Do we know if the cp issue has been fixed on these? Also the 28(9) issue and wasn't there something with the rear engraving. I'm looking to pick one of these up this week and would appreciate any advice. a I think I've seen some pictures of improved CPs but not totally fixed. The jewel text has been corrected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genius 281 Posted February 6, 2015 Do we know if the cp issue has been fixed on these? Also the 28(9) issue and wasn't there something with the rear engraving. I'm looking to pick one of these up this week and would appreciate any advice. a I think I've seen some pictures of improved CPs but not totally fixed. The jewel text has been corrected. Mysterio, or Ale Either of you care to comment on the possibility that hand length issue has been fixed on the 438, I saw a post over on RWI suggesting this was now sorted, also seems as you mentioned the CP is a lot better, but the reference guide still states these as issues with this particular model Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
henrychinaski 2 Posted February 9, 2015 I want a 438 - wow, a seriously nice watch. Pretty sure I'll bag one of these after CNY! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALE7575 24 Posted February 14, 2015 Length hands issue in KW-V6Fac version is already corrected in last batches Just to assurte you are getting the last version I have not had time to update the PAM GUIDE ALE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites