JohnG 41 Posted February 18, 2009 Anybody know this site - I found this page linked in a gen discussion (they called the guy a "cockroach" so I figured he must be good!). He sells a lot of rep parts cases, etc... I was looking for Omega parts, didn't find any, but these Comex case backs look good to me... RA, you know this guy? EDIT - here is another supplier of high end vintage Daytona/Rolex reps and parts: http://www.yukiwatch.com/index.html http://www.jewelryandwatch.com/index1.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trailboss99 994 Posted February 18, 2009 Nice find. I bet the gen mob hate him. He's a franken builders dream! Col. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greg_r 81 Posted February 18, 2009 Anybody know this site - I found this page linked in a gen discussion (they called the guy a "cockroach" so I figured he must be good!). He sells a lot of rep parts cases, etc... I was looking for Omega parts, didn't find any, but these Comex case backs look good to me... RA, you know this guy? http://www.jewelryandwatch.com/index1.html Ah - that's Phong. Heard some very good things about him but never used him myself (I'm just too damned idle to build a franken... ). Certainly looks like he has an interesting stock list, for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnG 41 Posted February 18, 2009 He has the most expensive rep I have ever seen! Daytona 6239 S.S valjoux 72 6.500,00 $ +Shipping charges Model 6239, S.S case Genuine valjoux 72 conversion 722 Custom case, custom engraving Genuine crown, Tube and crystal 36 mm bezel 300, Gununie pushers after market dial Paul newman Stainless steel grade 316 1 year warranty, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnG 41 Posted February 18, 2009 Rep vintage Sea-Dweller: $5,500 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greg_r 81 Posted February 18, 2009 Yup - I believe he builds reps using lots of gen parts - including movements where possible. I'll admit I don't really see the point of spending that kinda dough on a rep - no matter how many gen parts - but there ya go... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trailboss99 994 Posted February 18, 2009 Eeeeeks! Love the 'tona but OMFG! What's the MVT worth, any idea? I think the gen may be just a little more tho! You would think he could do beter than a "Hong Kong" strap mind you. I can understand the gen crowd being upset at the SD. It's perfect. That's the sort of thing that gets sold as a gen to some poor sod. How would you know? I'm hardly a WIS on vintage SDs but I see no tells at all. The only way would be to chk the serial # with Rolex. Not cheap but the gen is tens of thousands isn't it? I bet he does a mean DRSD and they fetch 50Gs plus nowdays. More I think.A true artiste. Col. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greg_r 81 Posted February 18, 2009 Yeah, the gen is a LOT more, but still. OUCH!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnG 41 Posted February 18, 2009 Eeeeeks!Love the 'tona but OMFG! What's the MVT worth, any idea? He sells it separately: Valjoux 722 Movement 3.500,00 $ +Shipping charges Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greg_r 81 Posted February 18, 2009 Eeeeeks!Love the 'tona but OMFG! What's the MVT worth, any idea? He sells it separately: Valjoux 722 Movement 3.500,00 $ +Shipping charges Bargain. I'll have two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trailboss99 994 Posted February 18, 2009 I say again, Eeeeeks! Lovely MVT tho. It would wanna be! I know bugger all about 'tonas, this is an early one? I didn't think the PNs were that old yet it's a handwind. Was the gen? Deserves a display back realy. Hey do you get the Gray and Sons catalog? Comes out every mth with 2 to 3 hundred pre owned gens in it from $600 to $60,000. They mail world wide for free. Just got the new one. Remember that Briet Bently GT somone found on the bay from the ise scate guy for 80 grand? Only 10 of? Theres one in here for $47.500. Guess he is dreaming! Col. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
onzenuub 306 Posted February 18, 2009 It is only a Rolex gentlemen, nothing more as a Rolex. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnG 41 Posted February 18, 2009 Whoops, he DOES have more expensive reps: 2499 Chronograph Moon phase 15.500,00 $ +Shipping charges 2499 Chronograph, custom made case 18kt yellow or Pink gold, Valjoux 23 Conversion Nice moon phase, chronograph, Triple date High quality made, excellent quality work, Lead-time 8 weeks and $2000.00 deposit required. bank wire only. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
onzenuub 306 Posted February 18, 2009 Now, that is a beauty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trailboss99 994 Posted February 18, 2009 Holey crap! no wonder they hate him! 'tis very nice tho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greg_r 81 Posted February 18, 2009 Whoa.... that's quite something. Mind you, for that price it needs to be... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RolexAddict 1 Posted February 18, 2009 (edited) Yes I know this guy, "Phong" The concept is not so bad, For vintage Daytonas for exemple, 1)_he has -I don't know the source- good cases with dissimetrical pushers and good dials with the correct sub-dials spacing and diameter. 2)_he uses Valjoux and other modified Chinese movements with gen engraved Rolex spiral bridges added. In fact he plays mixing gen and rep movement parts. It works fine. Prices are not to bad -not for us, as we knows about fakes and scammers- but the world is full of stupid rich people who don't mind about prices Never forget, here in Paris, prices for a gen 6263 or 6239, with classic dial or exotic dial are starting at 30.000 euros up to 150.000 euros There is a market for this concept, this guy gave me some inspiration, I have sold one of my rep vintage Daytona with slight mods for 1.000 euros. Amateur, but a good start. The modded 1675 GMT Master I had with me in Hawaii was positive pressure tested at 200 meters, normaly gen Rolex GMT's are proofed for 100 meters... I have sold this super waterproof GMT 1.400 euros Now, I am quite sure in Paris some of Rolex vintage collector shops knows Phong's company... I was banned from a lot of french collectors forums when I mentionned Jewlery&watch website, I suppose I was disturbing a slice of the business here, I think so Edited February 18, 2009 by RolexAddict Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnG 41 Posted February 18, 2009 Great info RA - I think it is pretty cool. More than I would ever spend - I wouldn't wear one of those even if they were gen (they are just too much watch for me), but it is neat to see the work of a master counterfeiter... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnG 41 Posted February 18, 2009 Here is another supplier of high end vintage Daytona/Rolex reps and parts: http://www.yukiwatch.com/index.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RolexAddict 1 Posted February 19, 2009 John, YUKIWATCH is excellent ! I was close to buy a GMT dial from Phong... this from Yuki is 3 time cheaper and looks better and is sold with a hands set and free shipped !!! They have also double red SD dials !!! with "singer" engraved at the back, this was the Swiss factory who made these dials for Rolex This is the last news letter I got from J&Watches The first pic on the top left shows a 40mm 6263 P.Newman with a new SS bezel ring... speed scale up to 300km/h... Just to giveyou a idea of the gen prices here, This is a shop close to my home, I often walk in to have a look The link, you can check prices for gen Patek, Rlx, Panerai etc;; http://www.timeaddict.com/fr/index.cfm Here its possible to develop a new market with that kind of expensive rep concept. Some collectors knows its not gen, but they accept it and buy a 100% "looks like a gen" for cheaper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnG 41 Posted February 19, 2009 Yup - if I had big bucks I would buy one of these - they are not mere "reps" or even "reproductions" - they are works of art! Very very cool... I may be doing my own super-franken Omega soon (or not-so-super if compared to these) - I will know tomorrow if things work out tomorrow.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trailboss99 994 Posted February 19, 2009 Yep, not realy a rep. More of the real thing at a fraction of the price. Gray&sons have a nice example of that vintage sub for only $48,000. Nice BCE TT, white MOP dial, box and papers for you John. It's a little more affordable, $4,200. Col. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
