gvln68 0 Posted January 7, 2015 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Panerai-Luminor-Marina-3-Day-PAM312-P-Series-2013-/141533058221?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item20f40714ad balance wheel @11 instead of @7 US $6,900.00 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kennycoder 97 Posted January 7, 2015 Indeed. And you can see it's a fake bridge over the movement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bidle 0 Posted January 7, 2015 Terrible and seller had 100% good feedback, probably doesn't even realize he's selling a fake watch; poor bastard and poorer potential buyer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gvln68 0 Posted January 8, 2015 he claims its gen) i've wrote him its fake and here is his answer : I can assure you this watch is not a fake. It was purchased from an Authorized Dealer in 2013 and I have a certified appraisal for insurance purposes from Betteridge Jewelers. This is the real deal. Sorry to disappoint you. I don't own or sell fakes. f@kin clown Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
torobravo 9 Posted January 8, 2015 Careful with that! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bidle 0 Posted January 8, 2015 Careful with that! You think it is real?? I did noticed the different engravings on the base plate. You can clearly see "swiss made" and the "cal. P.9000" are on a different place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunbites 0 Posted January 8, 2015 It's quite sad as you can get insurance appraisal (in the uk) by just sending a picture to the insurer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stuvetjee 17 Posted January 9, 2015 he claims its gen) i've wrote him its fake and here is his answer : I can assure you this watch is not a fake. It was purchased from an Authorized Dealer in 2013 and I have a certified appraisal for insurance purposes from Betteridge Jewelers. This is the real deal. Sorry to disappoint you. I don't own or sell fakes. f@kin clown Not to mention the terrible date alignment. Look at the 1. Its positioned too much to the left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bidle 0 Posted January 9, 2015 Doesn't Ebay have a reporting system,.. so some us can flag this to Ebay. It's just a shame that somebody will be scammed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genius 281 Posted January 9, 2015 Did he say he bought it from the AD? Maybe he bought it from a scammer who had a receipt for a real one from an AD, with a good enough rep its not totally surprising that an independent jeweller that isn't a pam expert could appraise it as real. I own reps now that I would have been convinced were real before I was a member here, I'm not trying to stick up for him if he is a scammer but its easy to forget that other than us rep fora members most people aren't picky enough on details to spot a fake, or even know reps this good exist Either way, sellers good/bad intentions aside it does need taking off ebay! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyKrush 16 Posted January 9, 2015 Looks to be a ZFac 7750. Direct him to the false escapement wheel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paparolf 45 Posted January 9, 2015 I have reported it, but takes a while for them to get there arse into gear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2hot2trot 4 Posted January 9, 2015 Have you seen whatelse he is selling...................I am not kidding you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,His user name is: "watchmework" yet he has listed a "used" pair of mens boxer shorts for $20 but he states they have only been worn once.... So I think he knows what he is up to without a shadow of a doubt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BaggyPants 0 Posted January 9, 2015 Bought from an AD but "no papers" stated in the description? Nobody buys a gen Panerai and throws away the paperwork. This guy knows full well it's a rep. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyKrush 16 Posted January 9, 2015 He just informed me he's taking the listing down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CedricWX 1 Posted January 9, 2015 It has been removed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genius 281 Posted January 9, 2015 It has been removed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genius 281 Posted January 9, 2015 It has been removed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bidle 0 Posted January 9, 2015 That's good news. Always hate when you see something potentially go wrong and can't do anything about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunbites 0 Posted January 9, 2015 well tbh he might have not known its a rep? And I have my rollie with no box or papers; got lost while moving a house Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paparolf 45 Posted January 9, 2015 well tbh he might have not known its a rep? And I have my rollie with no box or papers; got lost while moving a house Well he new eventually cos he delisted it. Good job well done I say Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyKrush 16 Posted January 10, 2015 Not sure if he knew or not. We had a couple correspondence back and forth but mostly he was sticking with his "official authentication service" position. He finally agreed to take it down and get it re-examined. We'll see... It might pop up again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
