Kemist 0 Posted January 12, 2015 Puretime's photos are always heavily exposed which has the effect of bleaching the dial, I would assume that the watches Puretime and Toro are offering are the same, from the same factory, so this gives me confidence that the watch from Puretime will look the same as the ones offered by Toro!! DC DC you know these leather straps comes with the rep, they are usually very low in quality (not sure about this one yet but usually), they are slim, flimsy and is hard like a rock most of the time. Where would one source a new pair of leather strap like that with better quality, you know dressy types of strap: black/brown leather, soft, appropriate thickness, no visible thread on the two edges of the strap etc. Of course we can always buy gen straps but they are quite unnecessarily pricy. You could go to someone like Donerix and have him custom make a strap to your specification. But I am planning on buying a RIOS 1931 strap to go with mine (same strap I have for my 5107). They are high quality German made alligator straps and are very similar in style to gen Patek straps. They are slim (a dress watch strap should be slim), soft, comfortable and have a beautiful finish! Here's the one on my 5107... You can get them on eBay, I'll be getting a deep dark brown one for my rose gold 5227 DC Thanks for the info. I'll get the Rios 1931 off ebay! Cant wait for the watch to arrive! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DC_ 218 Posted January 12, 2015 Just check the sizes first, that's the only problem with the RIOS straps, they are quite limited in terms of sizes!! DC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martijn0007 3 Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) Wow! I just noticed this. They finally start to listen to us! Stop all the APs and PAMs, and make some good Patek reps! In my opinion the white dial RG version looks good, and that caseback... man... Edited January 12, 2015 by Martijn0007 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DC_ 218 Posted January 12, 2015 Wow! I just noticed this. They finally start to listen to us! Stop all the APs and PAMs, and make some good Patek reps! In my opinion the white dial RG version looks good, and that caseback... man... I know right?! It's about time they did something other than endless APs and PAMs, and these seem to have got a good response so maybe it will encourage them to realise there is a lot of love for other brands!!! DC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martijn0007 3 Posted January 12, 2015 Wow! I just noticed this. They finally start to listen to us! Stop all the APs and PAMs, and make some good Patek reps! In my opinion the white dial RG version looks good, and that caseback... man... I know right?! It's about time they did something other than endless APs and PAMs, and these seem to have got a good response so maybe it will encourage them to realise there is a lot of love for other brands!!! DC Absolutely! I'm gonna order one next month since I'm trying to not buy more then 1 watch a month (new years resolution ) Which one did you go for Dave? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DC_ 218 Posted January 12, 2015 I went for the rose gold, since I already have a stainless steel Calatrava (the 5107) plus my fiancée bought me some nice rose gold cufflinks from Charles Tyrwhitt for Christmas but I don't have a work appropriate rose gold watch to wear with them, so this will do nicely!! Might add a SS version further down the line if I like it enough!! DC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martijn0007 3 Posted January 12, 2015 I went for the rose gold, since I already have a stainless steel Calatrava (the 5107) plus my fiancée bought me some nice rose gold cufflinks from Charles Tyrwhitt for Christmas but I don't have a work appropriate rose gold watch to wear with them, so this will do nicely!! Might add a SS version further down the line if I like it enough!! DC Very nice! Make sure to post some pictures when it arrives I really hope this piece sells good and they will see that we're willing to pay for good Patek reps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunbites 0 Posted January 12, 2015 I went for the rose gold, since I already have a stainless steel Calatrava (the 5107) plus my fiancée bought me some nice rose gold cufflinks from Charles Tyrwhitt for Christmas but I don't have a work appropriate rose gold watch to wear with them, so this will do nicely!! Might add a SS version further down the line if I like it enough!! DC I stopped getting cufflinks after i lost like 20th pair Even tho all my shirts have french cuffs ;d Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andyc 0 Posted January 14, 2015 Admin edit: please do not post QC pics for any reason Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andyc 0 Posted January 14, 2015 Does anyone know the strap dimensions for this? I have an awesome 22/18, will it fit? I'm pretty sure the gen is a 19mm lug width, but it would be 20mm at the very most, so I doubt the rep will be 22mm I'm afraid! DC Anyone want to fancy a guess on the buckle size? I have a fantastic 20/14 Gen to put on this beauty... From experience I'd say 20/16!! DC The gen strap size is 19 / 16 Here's the full gen spec: Technical data Calatrava Ref. 5227 Movement: Caliber 324 S C Self-winding mechanical movement, aperture date, and sweep seconds Diameter: 27 mm Height: 3.3 mm Number of parts: 213 Number of jewels: 29 Power reserve: Min. 38 hours, max. 48 hours Winding rotor: Central rotor in 21K gold, unidirectional winding Balance: Gyromax® Frequency: 28,800 semi-oscillations per hour (4 Hz) Balance spring: Spiromax® Functions: 3-position crown – Pushed in: To wind the watch – Pulled halfway out: To correct the date – Pulled out: To set the time Displays: Center hours, minutes, and sweep seconds Aperture date with an 18K gold frame at 3 o'clock Hallmark: Patek Philippe Seal Features Case: Round case in 18K yellow, rose, or white gold, snap back with a sapphire-crystal glass beneath a dust cover with an invisible hinge Lugs with curved flutes Water-resistant to 30 m Case dimensions: Diameter: 39 mm Height (crystal – lugs): 9.58 mm Height (crystal – dust cover): 9.24 mm Width between lugs: 19 mm Dial: Brass, cream-colored lacquer Polished Dauphine hands in 18K gold with two facets 12 applied trapezoidal hour markers in 18K gold Strap: Hand-stitched alligator with square scales, shiny black (white gold), shiny chocolate brown (yellow gold) or shiny dark brown (rose gold); 16-mm prong buckle in 18K gold to match the case Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kemist 0 Posted January 14, 2015 It clearly looks like the dial is somewhat yellowy or has a very slight tint of yellow to it, not as bleaching white as in Puretime's photos. The "White gold" version should have the similar color of the dial too. Mine should be here tomorrow will post an update then! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
black263 228 Posted January 14, 2015 I'm not a gold wearer, but must say that looks stunning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantomtech 4 Posted January 15, 2015 Whoever is the first to get it can you please please measure the strap width at the lugs??? Thanks in advance! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Laz730 0 Posted January 15, 2015 Whoever is the first to get it can you please please measure the strap width at the lugs??? Thanks in advance! I know the width between the lugs on a gen is 19mm...Idk if that will help you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
<RJ> 0 Posted January 15, 2015 So, All good then And a Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantomtech 4 Posted January 15, 2015 (edited) Whoever is the first to get it can you please please measure the strap width at the lugs??? Thanks in advance! I know the width between the lugs on a gen is 19mm...Idk if that will help you? Thanks but a lot of times the rep has slightly different dimensions so was wondering if thats the case here. Edited January 15, 2015 by Phantomtech Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DC_ 218 Posted January 15, 2015 Mine arrived today, not had much time to get to know her yet but I can tell you the lug/buckle dimensions are 19/18!! So there's not much taper to the strap! In a way I wish they'd gone 20/18 coz it needs replacing and 19/18 is far from standard sizing!! DC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantomtech 4 Posted January 16, 2015 Mine arrived today, not had much time to get to know her yet but I can tell you the lug/buckle dimensions are 19/18!! So there's not much taper to the strap! In a way I wish they'd gone 20/18 coz it needs replacing and 19/18 is far from standard sizing!! DC Thanks DC! I will contact my strapmaker now, I really appreciate your help! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andyc 0 Posted January 17, 2015 (edited) My watch arrived yesterday, so here's my two pennyworth... Firstly, this is a beautiful watch! Very classy, understated and a perfect dress watch. The quality is excellent, everything works like you would expect and the "white" dial isn't actually white, it's an off white shade that seems to be pretty much as per the gen. I'm glad I ordered that version and not the "yellow" dial that is also available. . Edited January 17, 2015 by andyboy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unpollo2 0 Posted March 12, 2015 i've emailed and PM fat panda several times to try and get this cross buckle for my Nautilus since Patek does not make a cross buckle in that strap size 18mm. no response on either attempts. is it because i am newly registered? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SackOHammers 0 Posted March 15, 2015 It's not because you're newly registered, it's because you PMed him. He's not going to see that. Email him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DC_ 218 Posted March 15, 2015 i've emailed and PM fat panda several times to try and get this cross buckle for my Nautilus since Patek does not make a cross buckle in that strap size 18mm. no response on either attempts. is it because i am newly registered? Email is definitely best, he doesn't tend to check PMs, but I know he's an extremely busy man working all the hours god gave, I've had emails from him at pretty much all times of the day and night so god knows when that man finds time to eat/sleep lol! DC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdenResident 0 Posted March 16, 2015 DC, Is the last watch in your sig pic the 5227? Does it have an off-white dial as well? Who did you buy it from? Sorry for asking many questions but I'm really excited as well and we'll be ordering one soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DC_ 218 Posted March 16, 2015 DC, Is the last watch in your sig pic the 5227? Does it have an off-white dial as well? Who did you buy it from? Sorry for asking many questions but I'm really excited as well and we'll be ordering one soon. That is indeed the 5227 and the dial is off white, if you can wait till tomorrow I've just bought a new strap for it and will be posting new pics, so wait and check those out!! DC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EdenResident 0 Posted March 17, 2015 DC, Is the last watch in your sig pic the 5227? Does it have an off-white dial as well? Who did you buy it from? Sorry for asking many questions but I'm really excited as well and we'll be ordering one soon. That is indeed the 5227 and the dial is off white, if you can wait till tomorrow I've just bought a new strap for it and will be posting new pics, so wait and check those out!! DC Great! I'm sure I'll be drooling hahaha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites