scope 3 Posted November 26, 2010 Had some spare time today for a change and put this together with extra parts. I used the original Russian pocket watch dial and filled in the unusable second hole with a spare gear from a broken movement. Let me know what you think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fiddo 0 Posted November 26, 2010 I like it! It has a clean vintage look. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pollux1 3 Posted November 26, 2010 Damn! That looks good! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scope 3 Posted November 26, 2010 Thanks guys. Only wish I had a extra stem so I could fire the bastard up. Oh well going to have to wait and order that! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pollux1 3 Posted November 26, 2010 You know that really looks damn good, let me know if you get it running and are thinking of selling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aren 27 Posted November 26, 2010 Hi Scope, Looks great ! I don't think I see the rehaut accurately from the picture. In case I am not using the term correctly, I mean the ridge/band which raises the crystal from the bezel to allow room for the movement of the hands. Beautiful time piece and nice repair Scope. I haven't seen a watch like this before, so for me this is a rare opportunity. I am a bit confused... These numerals are definitely not Cyrillic numerals. The first few numerals would look alphabetic in the Western sense if the dial was scribed in Russian. These are all Western numerals. Do you know the date of origin of this lovely vintage watch? This is a very interesting and unusual watch. I will revisit your photographs and look at it more closely when time permits. Perhaps this watch was made for export to the West. I am not great at google searches and don't visit .ru sites. This dial does not look Russian to me due to the lack of Cyrillic numerals, but I don't know very much. I would like to know more details if you know them. Nice job and lovely vintage time piece. Thanks for posting this. This is fascinating. EDIT: By West, I mean Western Europe. B) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scope 3 Posted November 26, 2010 Aren, This is a RUSSIAN Pocket Watch MOLNIJA from around 1947 . These movements are tooled from the same machines that rolex used for there 618 movements which were used in early pam 6152-1. I have built several 6152's and have many leftover pam parts. It seem most all russian watches use the type of numerals but this dial does add a unusual script? You do see some distortion right around the crystal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aren 27 Posted November 26, 2010 I looked at some images online and didn't see any with Cyrillic numerals. I did see some with Hebrew numerals. I have never seen a watch like this before. Some of the ones I saw look rather like PAMs. I am learning here to look at Wiki, but there wasn't much information there. It is a lovely watch and you did a very nice job on the face with the gear. It is aesthetically very nice and a creative repair. I hope you will get it working. Thanks for sharing. All the Best Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mondeov6 0 Posted November 26, 2010 A really cool and great looking watch!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KBH 7 Posted November 26, 2010 I just happen to have some extra stems for Molnija. They are all pocket watch stems though. Let me know if you want one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luthier 1 Posted November 27, 2010 I looked at some images online and didn't see any with Cyrillic numerals. I did see some with Hebrew numerals. I have never seen a watch like this before. Some of the ones I saw look rather like PAMs. I am learning here to look at Wiki, but there wasn't much information there. It is a lovely watch and you did a very nice job on the face with the gear. It is aesthetically very nice and a creative repair. I hope you will get it working. Thanks for sharing. All the Best Ari, what the hell is it - Cyrillic numerals? The numerals on that dial are Arabic. 1,2,3, 4 etc. If you're talking about letters - they're all Russian letters, word "Molnia" (Lightning) on the front, and word SALUT ( Salute), then 17 rocks, etc. All written in Russian. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aren 27 Posted November 27, 2010 Hi Luthier, I have never seen a vintage Russian watch before...and thought it would look like this: The watch remade by scope is lovely. I just thought the numbers would be different. I tried to Wiki the watch, but there wasn't much there. I like to look at the time pieces, but just expected it to look more like the one above. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luthier 1 Posted November 27, 2010 Ari, this "watch" picture is very interesting. There's a few russian letters, and few Armenian. No any meaning whatsoever, it's definitely not a watch dial, seems like it's kind of can...? (I see old style can opener on the left)..... Here's a few russian watches: http://www.russianwatchguide.com/images/vostok-military.jpg http://www.diamondvues.com/main_v1.jpg http://www.russianwatchguide.com/images/buran-watch.jpg http://www.h-spot.net/watches/poljot_aviator.jpg http://www.russia2all.com/images/shop/prod...751_4426905.jpg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aren 27 Posted November 27, 2010 Thanks Luthier...I was hoping you would comment. I got this clock face from further research...take a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrillic_numerals I only speak a couple of words in Russian and don't write any at all. I play Russians at chess, but that is about it. The Russian's are tough chess opponents and usually have the same MO when I play them. I know the MO now and address it early in my game. I read up on the Cyrillic after my original posts. Edit: Thanks for the pix Luthier. I am still learning and these are unusual watches. I really like the rectangular faced watch, but all of them look really nice. These all look like new watches. These are probably all gens... really nice. I admire scopes watch and his creativity. I hope he gets it running. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luthier 1 Posted November 27, 2010 Thanks Luthier...I was hoping you would comment. I got this clock face from further research...take a look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrillic_numerals I only speak a couple of words in Russian and don't write any at all. I play Russians at chess, but that is about it. The Russian's are tough chess opponents and usually have the same MO when I play them. I know the MO now and address it early in my game. I read up on the Cyrillic after my original posts. Oh, my... Russian is one of my native languages, but, honestly - I never heard anything about Cyrillic numerals, now I see - it's 18th Century thing. Thanks, Ari!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dendo 93 Posted November 27, 2010 Ari, this "watch" picture is very interesting. There's a few russian letters, and few Armenian. No any meaning whatsoever, it's definitely not a watch dial, seems like it's kind of can...? (I see old style can opener on the left)..... Here's a few russian watches: http://www.russianwatchguide.com/images/vostok-military.jpg http://www.diamondvues.com/main_v1.jpg http://www.russianwatchguide.com/images/buran-watch.jpg http://www.h-spot.net/watches/poljot_aviator.jpg http://www.russia2all.com/images/shop/prod...751_4426905.jpg Love the Soyuz and the Buran above. The Buran looks a bit like the very expensive Patek Phillipe Complications watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luthier 1 Posted November 27, 2010 Yes, and it cost $4329. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites