flawless85 0 Posted December 3, 2013 (edited) I just purchased the Ultimate Planet Ocean 42mm version from a TD in this Forum and since I haven't seen too many side by side reviews of the "old" and "new" planet ocean, here we go: For those who are considering buying a gen or rep Planet Ocean and are not sure which way to go here are the major differences between the two: Movement: The new gen comes with Omega's first inhouse made 8500 movement. The UPO comes with a modified ETA movement. Size/Weight: The new Planet Ocean is thicker (due to the new movement), making it 2mm higher and for that reason it is also heavier Bezel: The new PO comes with a ceramic bezel, the UPO comes with a stainless steel bezel (we will come back to that later) Back: The new PO has a glass cover on the back, the UPO has the good old metal cover Dial/Hands: The Dial on the Ceramic version looks "blacker" on the pics but actually this is just because of the blue AR coating on the UPO. The hands have different colors on the Ceramic. The ceramic version has a 2 color lume, the UPO comes with an all green lume. I bought the "new" 8500 ceramic replica a few months ago so it is a little older. The UPO arrived last week and I haven't really worn it so far. Both reps come with a ETA 2824 movement and are keeping time very well. The movement on the ceramic version is pretty well done in terms of decoration. Through the glass back cover you can see the movement work and the makers have done a pretty good job here! The biggest difference to me is the much bolder look of the ceramic version. The wider bezel and the red "seamaster" writing are most obvious changes from the UPO. However, how you may notice the bezel is already fading on the ceramic version. I read about this alot in the forums and this seems to happen with most of the ceramic reps. Here are some pics (excuse the bad quality, I am not really good at this) The chrystal on both replicas is a domed sapphire with double AR coating. The coating on the ceramic version has been scratching very easily and I really don't know if this will happen with the UPO too. I will be able to tell probably in a few weeks:) The Hands on the ceramic version seem to be cheaper than on the UPO. Looking very closely, one can see that they are scratched and this really tells that it is a replica! The bezel is fading on the ceramic. I have been wearing it at work for 2 months but mostly covered by a shirt. The clasp and band work smoother on the ceramic version and they seem to be higher quality! As for the lume, UPO has a much brighter and evenly spread lume on the hands and dial! Well done... My favorite is the UPO, It just looks much better without the fading bezel. Don't get me wrong! Both reps are veryhigh quality watches but the UPO wins! Like I said, I bought both of them at TD's from the forum. Just message me if you would like to know more about the prices and Dealers. regards Edited December 4, 2013 by flawless85 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryaku 4 Posted December 4, 2013 Nice comparison and write up! I like the ceramic Po a lot but the thickness is a real deal breaker for me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flawless85 0 Posted December 4, 2013 It really is a big one! Like I said, I prefer the UPO too :cheerleader2: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pharmo 33 Posted December 4, 2013 thanks for that mate....great write up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rockzz22 0 Posted December 4, 2013 Thanks for taking time to post enjoyed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LightGeek 41 Posted December 4, 2013 The ceramic is visually quite a bit thicker which makes it not as nice for smaller wrists. I did the UPO, went to ceramic pumpkin, then back to UPO for that very reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Jimmy 29 Posted December 4, 2013 Thanks for taking the time to do this. Are the ceramic and liquid metal the same thickness? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
George. 34 Posted December 4, 2013 Thank you for this.. It will be interesting to hear about the AR on the latest version. I've had mine for a couple of months now and the coating is scratched to shit. I'll be looking to upgrade soon probably. Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flawless85 0 Posted December 4, 2013 Thank you for this.. It will be interesting to hear about the AR on the latest version. I've had mine for a couple of months now and the coating is scratched to shit. I'll be looking to upgrade soon probably. Thanks! The AR on the ceramic is very good and does what it is supposed to do. but the scratches really suck.. The AR on the older model has this cool blue tone and so far no scratches. Probably because I haven't really worn it outside I will keep you posted! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flawless85 0 Posted December 4, 2013 Thanks for taking the time to do this. Are the ceramic and liquid metal the same thickness? I am not sure, but I believe that all the 8500 caliber PO's are coming with the same size cases. Only difference should be the diameter... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flawless85 0 Posted December 7, 2013 Ok after wearing the UPO for 2 days the AR started getting tiny scratches… Seems to be the same issue as with the ceramic. I think I will consider removing the AR on the outside... cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jan-mj 0 Posted December 11, 2013 Thanks so much, I was just recently thinking about this! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex13 0 Posted December 19, 2013 (edited) Dammit. I have the ceramic pumpkin PO, and small wrists, it sits a little awkwardly but wearable. Been tossing up picking up the UPO V5 with the A4813 movement in a different bezel colour and now I think I have to. Maybe two of them. On the UPO V5, the numbers look white rather than silver when compared to the ceramic. Is that how they are, or is it just the light? Edited December 19, 2013 by Alex13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BaggyPants 0 Posted December 19, 2013 That's not a UPO, it's a Version 5 42mm Planet Ocean. The so-called UPO (Ultimate Planet Ocean) is the 45mm version of the watch. Best version of the old 42mm Planet Ocean - v5 Best version of the old 45mm Planet Ocean - UPO Get's confusing if you talk about one, but mean the other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BaggyPants 0 Posted December 19, 2013 On the v5, the numbers look white rather than silver when compared to the ceramic. Is that how they are, or is it just the light? They are white on the gen version. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex13 0 Posted December 19, 2013 Thanks mate, appreciate the information I always got confused between UPO and v5 and now it makes sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
twofake 0 Posted December 19, 2013 People are saying the external AR is scratching easily . What is on the gen? Does the gen external AR scratch easily and if not, what could be different? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jpohl402 0 Posted December 19, 2013 Very nice review, and good idea to compare old and new models! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flawless85 0 Posted December 23, 2013 Thanks for the explanation of the UPO and V5! Seems like I got them mixed up, sorry for that! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flawless85 0 Posted December 24, 2013 Oh by the way: I had a Mido Ocean Star Captain IV for about a year and the AR does not scratch at all.. Seems like Gen's do have an advantage over reps! And even for a low price quality watch (900 USD or something) this chrystal is just awesome... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattyjupatti 0 Posted January 1, 2014 Lovely watch. Think the 42 will be my first purchase. Has any body found a cure for the bezel fade? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Markrfc 3 Posted January 1, 2014 Lovely watch. Think the 42 will be my first purchase. Has any body found a cure for the bezel fade? Fit a gen insert if you can all current models the bezel will fade eventually. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattyjupatti 0 Posted January 1, 2014 Lovely watch. Think the 42 will be my first purchase. Has any body found a cure for the bezel fade? Fit a gen insert if you can all current models the bezel will fade eventually. Thanks Mark, do you know if they definitely fit? Where would I go about purchasing one ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jim993 0 Posted April 19, 2014 Excellent review, many thanks. Jim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites