KeNnY 29 Posted July 3, 2012 Hublot Oceanographic 4000m Diver V6 factory Comparison GEN vs REP Hey all, so this is my first comparison with Gen vs Rep, so I am sorry if it is not really top notch review I had before the First Hublot Diver it was released, but I had to sell it in Februeary, then I have noticed GREAT rep comming out, so I simply MUST had it. And now I have it finally I pick the V2 version (this from V6 hublot factory) instead the V3 version (the newest ETA version, different maker), because from the comparison by Puretime, the strap is much much better quality, the movement is more gen like (also the gen has got chrono movement altered), by this the date possition is correct, the case looked better manufactured, the caseback look closer to gen to me, also the rubber "cap" on crown. The V3 version just simply look a bit lite version of V2. Here are specs of V6 factory version. Specifications: Movement: Asian 7750 Automatic Movement(28,800bph) Size: 48mm(dia)x22mm(thk) Dial: Superlumed Black Dial Crystal: Sapphire Crystal with Double AR Case: Brushed Titanium Caseset Bezel: Titanium Bezel Strap: Quick Release Black Rubber Strap Clasp: Normal Tang Buckle Functions: Hour; Minute; Second; Date THe main difference I maybe somewhere read is that the rep is heavier then Gen, but don't know how much, the rep weights around 210 grams. Maybe the middle of the case is stainless steel composite, because the backcase is for 100% titanium. Lets check some pics and talk about it Definitely Hublot DNA Thick! But can’t help - the thickness of the sapphire glass alone is 6.5 mm. The screw back on gen is made of grade 2 titanium – extremely strong material, don't know what grade titanium on rep, maybe grade 1 ? This is a feature required for any deep sea diving watch. Of course didn't know if it works correctly on rep (I bet it doesn't). During the compression period, gas enters the watch just like it is absorbed by the human body tissue. And while the divers are kept in the decompression process, the gas which entered the watch MUST be let out (otherwise it would explode…). This model is, unlike most other Hublot, equipped with tang buckle only. I am a deployant buckle fan, but considering the purpose of this watch, it may be more secure as it has less parts and screws. After all, the wet suit and/or glove thickness may vary mission by mission and it would be cumbersome to change the hole each time. Also another special mention is that the straps can be detached by pushing the triangle marked button – just clip on/ off. It is the requirement by NIHS, it has to be legible from 25 cm in darkness. The hands and the flange have larger area and treated with SuperLuminova We have only rubber strap at the moment, no kevlar :( The button to release the strap works great ! There are two crowns, both of which are screwed-in. One at the 2 o’clock is for the flange rotation (unidirectional). The rotation gear is disengaged once it is pushed down to screw-in, so no unwanted move of the flange. The flange crown is also protected by the “cage”. One at the 4 o’clock is for setting time and date, also screw-in type. The "cage" securely protects the flange rotation crown. The strap is spot on I can say, it is same quality as rubber strap from AP Diver V3. Maybe same supplier. I heard the gen is maybe more softer. It has got no vanilla scent. Simply monster The dial markers color is maybe a little more whiter on gen. Don't know really. The AR on gen is amazingly great. On rep we have a small hue to blue. The anti-reflective coating is very well done on mine. Find difference I am really happy with this rep and how close it is to the watch that cost 17 000 USD !!!! And we pay only around 448 USD (actual price from Marvellous Replica) and we can get that CLOSE replication ! Really amazing if you ask me Oh and for all, an information, the V3 prices are up, and they are the same price as V2. Differences V3 vs V2 from the photos I see - better movement reliability, used ETA 2824, smoother second hand, but not closer to gen, as gen has got as well chrono movement altered running always chrono - but wrong position of datewindow due to different movement used - better applied lume on markers and bezel insert - colorless AR on crystal - refinished case no sharp edges (don't think closer to gen) but overall construction looks weaker, notice the composite midcase not fastened fully together from the side on picture 4 - weaker rubber strap quality with not not nicely cut holes , they still have scrap rubber from molding - not that deep detailed caseback like on V2, the font is just a bit too thin some findings from Puretime first listings - V2 is generally better finished, we can see the BIG factory craftsmanship from the V2. - Inner bezel crown protector - V2 is loose and V3 is tight with a real "click lock" to the case body (that is true on V2 you can move the inner bezzel for really small micro steps, not like on AP diver where you have each minute click lock) - V3 has a slightly longer strap (for bigger wrists) and they punched one more hole on the strap (for smaller wrists) - Inner bezel lume color (uncharged) does not match the dial lume color on V3, while V2 matches, but inner bezel lume color (charged) matches the dial lume on V3 while V2 inner bezel has a weaker lume - V2 rubber strap is much better than the V3 rubber strap I know this stuff before I ordered mine and went for V2. Why ? Here are my points - movement used / date window position on dial - rubber quality - case quality - screws better fasten to the case - Price at the time was unknown for V3, but now when it is the same price, I would buy better V2. If the V3 was 100/150USD cheaper, I would buy the V3 with strap from V2 - V2 stated waterproofed from factory to 100m, bigger oring on the caseback, good feedback from different members At one point maybe someone will create ultimate Hublot from the guts of V3 and put it to V2 case, but that is likely unlikely Hope you enjoyed my comparison and please feel free to ask if you have some questions. Thanks for watching Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Replicawatch 34 Posted July 3, 2012 Awesome, now I will have to buy one of these bad boys, you are becoming an expensive person to know! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeNnY 29 Posted July 3, 2012 Awesome, now I will have to buy one of these bad boys, you are becoming an expensive person to know! haha Thank you buddy, glad you like it. And yes buy it mate, it surely will not be a wrong step. This surely is best rep around at the moment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DFH 0 Posted July 3, 2012 That looks fantastic Kenny! Great review and this is most definitely super rep material! I have always fancied this model and it may well turn out to be my first step away from my PAM fetish. Well done! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeNnY 29 Posted July 3, 2012 That looks fantastic Kenny! Great review and this is most definitely super rep material! I have always fancied this model and it may well turn out to be my first step away from my PAM fetish. Well done! Thank you DFH for your kind words oh yes mate, I think this Hublot must be in collection. If one hublot I would pic this one, definitely something different and new ! For all I am sorry for not more nature colors but done this quickie under lamp and a bit played in photoshop to get the white balance correct. I don't have light box or good camera.. Just old Samsung D60 compact Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnnoblin 0 Posted July 3, 2012 How are the other V6 Hublots? I'm thinking about a 44mm Big Bang. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeandroBR 14 Posted July 3, 2012 Very nice comparison and review Kenny ! Is it really waterproof ? Have you already tested it ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
machiavegli 6 Posted July 3, 2012 Well done review and pics. Looks awesome. Funny how often a V2 can be better than a V3 (like the Briet SO I think?) I want one but I think I'd have to wear one on each wrist to balance out! -Mach Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baxter 6 Posted July 3, 2012 yep top review - i want one ( i'm saying that a lot since joining this forum !! ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dendo 93 Posted July 3, 2012 Nice work Kenny - thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeNnY 29 Posted July 4, 2012 How are the other V6 Hublots? I'm thinking about a 44mm Big Bang. I am sorry mate, don't know about other hublots much, this is the only one I really like Very nice comparison and review Kenny ! Is it really waterproof ? Have you already tested it ? Thank you buddy ! I bet it is with no issues, the construction is just amazing on this.I have greased the big ass thick oring on the back and the crowns, will do pressure test this weekend Well done review and pics. Looks awesome. Funny how often a V2 can be better than a V3 (like the Briet SO I think?) I want one but I think I'd have to wear one on each wrist to balance out! -Mach hahahaha yeah you will be like Diego Maradona yes well I can say the lume applied on V3 is much more better but, the movement, datewindow, strap, case quality, put it backwards and thank you buddy Great review KenNy !! Thank you Sam, glad you enjoyed it ! yep top review - i want one ( i'm saying that a lot since joining this forum !! ) Thank you Baxter happy you like it ! hahaha get it now mate, while it is still available ! Nice work Kenny - thanks! Thank you Dendo, glad it helped Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James. 4 Posted July 4, 2012 nice write up Kenny, I havent seen those gen pics before. Super rep. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theflyingdutchman 0 Posted July 4, 2012 (edited) The rep is great, but I after handeling both watches, the rep is 50-60 gr to heavy and just does not have the final perfect finish... I just orderd mine via Andrew... the rep of course! Edited July 4, 2012 by theflyingdutchman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeNnY 29 Posted July 4, 2012 nice write up Kenny, I havent seen those gen pics before. Super rep. Thank you buddy ! Yes really hard to get review pics of that watch !! The rep is great, but I after handeling both watches, the rep is 50-60 gr to heavy and just does not have the final perfect finish... I just orderd mine via Andrew... the rep of course! Thank you buddy, you had the Gen in your hands , lucky you yes the 50-60 grams could be the midcase how I was talking about, ,maybe different materials used, some heavier once. The back is totally light real titanium. What finish are you talking mate ? The edges softened or what finish ? Be sure to fasten the screws !! I made my own hublot screwdiver from one pin remover, worked great ! Looking forward for your pics Be sure to go to that dealer of Gen and make comparison pics as well . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gtwc 1 Posted July 4, 2012 Great comparison, thanks a lot KeNnY. This is THE Hublot that I want - it looks super. As you say $446 vs $17,000 - and I'll never go scuba diving !! Look forward yo your pressure test - be nice to know it's swimming pool / snorkelling safe. Keep up the good work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seclark007 11 Posted July 4, 2012 Great job as usual, KeNnY! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeNnY 29 Posted July 4, 2012 Great comparison, thanks a lot KeNnY. This is THE Hublot that I want - it looks super. As you say $446 vs $17,000 - and I'll never go scuba diving !! Look forward yo your pressure test - be nice to know it's swimming pool / snorkelling safe. Keep up the good work. Thanks mate ! Exactly !! I bet it will be safe, just had it opened yesterday, here are pics And from the construction I can say it will be waterproof to 100m with no issues. The crystal is glued by factory, got 6,5mm thickness, the both crowns are screw down with tripple / quadro o-rings really great construction. And even dealers state that it came pressure tested from factory to 100m. Yesterday I just fasten all screws , and greased orings, threads and sealed back, and also regulated movement. Was gaining around 14 seconds per day, till now it is about 7 second at 31°C temperature. will do pressure test 3 bars this weekend but I think it will pass no problems Great job as usual, KeNnY! Thank you buddy, happy you like it ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mianos 0 Posted July 4, 2012 And even dealers state that it came pressure tested from factory to 100m Oh really, Must be 100% gen construction so it must be water proof. :help3: <-- for the irony impaired. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeNnY 29 Posted July 4, 2012 Awesome review! Thank you Eric! And even dealers state that it came pressure tested from factory to 100m Oh really, Must be 100% gen construction so it must be water proof. :help3: <-- for the irony impaired. hahaha but really I have really strong and good feeling from the construction of this watch. Even better feel then the new version DSSD, witch I am not fun of , because you are impossible to get to the HEV valve from inside, where the ring is blocking your way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Member X 91 Posted July 4, 2012 Great comparison, thanks a lot KeNnY. This is THE Hublot that I want - it looks super. As you say $446 vs $17,000 - and I'll never go scuba diving !! Look forward yo your pressure test - be nice to know it's swimming pool / snorkelling safe. Keep up the good work. +1 to all of this! I think the remaining $16,500 is better spent on something else... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeNnY 29 Posted July 4, 2012 Great comparison, thanks a lot KeNnY. This is THE Hublot that I want - it looks super. As you say $446 vs $17,000 - and I'll never go scuba diving !! Look forward yo your pressure test - be nice to know it's swimming pool / snorkelling safe. Keep up the good work. +1 to all of this! I think the remaining $16,500 is better spent on something else... hell yeah ! I don't even think if there is some white gold, or platinum or any other shit worth those 16 000 USD on gen ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scorpion 0 Posted July 4, 2012 That is a beast of a watch - it looks superb and has lots of buttons to play with. Bit heavy but I have one watch pushing 360g and once one after the initial shock it comfortable. Its dear for a rep but the quality looks worth it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mspangl 0 Posted July 4, 2012 Nice review, Matej... I really want this one but I'm afraid it will look a bit weird on my wrist Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
