KeNnY 29 Posted February 13, 2013 As the title said. So very good wonder what will be the price, but good thing that you can now get the glass over pearl insert ceramics without any issues. http://www.1-pc8838....5c-p-13340.html You can update your BK sub if you don't want to buy a BP Sub Or update your modded DSSD http://www.1-pc8838....5d-p-13341.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
houndoggie 58 Posted February 13, 2013 I saw this the other day. Nice option for those needing a new one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeNnY 29 Posted February 13, 2013 I saw this the other day. Nice option for those needing a new one. exactly, but hope the price will be around 20 max 40 USD as you can get the 21J BP Sub ceramics with same hardware like the ETA version for around 120 USD, so cheaper option would be to buy the 21J movement watch and tear it for all the parts needed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luthier 1 Posted February 13, 2013 1. It's the same insert, that Trevor sell for years. 2. BP factory is a myth. 3. This insert is made at dial factory in Dongguan city. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crusader 0 Posted February 13, 2013 1. It's the same insert, that Trevor sell for years. 2. BP factory is a myth. 3. This insert is made at dial factory in Dongguan city. How about a M-factory, Luth? Does it exist? As Manual Factory... someone on the homageforum said that M-factory is working on new Tudor Black Bay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solkryssare 109 Posted February 13, 2013 1. It's the same insert, that Trevor sell for years.2. BP factory is a myth. 3. This insert is made at dial factory in Dongguan city. No Dunno Dunno Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeNnY 29 Posted February 13, 2013 1. It's the same insert, that Trevor sell for years.2. BP factory is a myth. 3. This insert is made at dial factory in Dongguan city. No Dunno Dunno yup. it is not the same insert luth Just got the BP DSSD in my hands, and the bezel is really better, but the pearl is biggest improvement. But the best bezel insert is for the Ceramic Submariner, that is just best bezel insert so far, nice deep wide engraving and glass over pearl is simply super. And lets just call them BP so we know what kind of version we have in hands, as it is not noob factory version , also I have some points to the case as it is really different to the noob case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luthier 1 Posted February 13, 2013 Triangle is wrong anyway. And again - Pearls made at absolutely different factory, and it's not a big problem to improve it, adding glass over the lume. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
houndoggie 58 Posted February 13, 2013 rule #1 guys!!!!! you are pissing in the wind here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatarms 7,893 Posted February 13, 2013 So considering these inserts and the modified 3135-ish movement in this sub: http://www.1-pc8838.com/rlss00008-116600-submariner-p-13285.html Is it a better deal than a TC or BK? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeNnY 29 Posted February 13, 2013 Triangle is wrong anyway. And again - Pearls made at absolutely different factory, and it's not a big problem to improve it, adding glass over the lume. yes that is true, the bezel insert on DSSD still needs to be better. but on Ceramic SUB I think it is already great. well I had hard time finding supplier for small 2 mm domed glass lenses (volume max 1000 pcs) , so I am happy they are already making them (the maker of ceramics inserts for the assembly "factory" in this case BP) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solkryssare 109 Posted February 13, 2013 So considering these inserts and the modified 3135-ish movement in this sub: http://www.1-pc8838.com/rlss00008-116600-submariner-p-13285.html Is it a better deal than a TC or BK? Depends. The TC, is as you know the classic 16610 Sub. So a different ball game. The quality of the TC is in another league as well. No comparison IMO. The BK TW Sub is good as well. But when it comes to Sub Cs, I'm pretty sure you can send your BP Sub to BK and have him mod it. The noob Sub C is not as good as the BP me think Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeNnY 29 Posted February 13, 2013 So considering these inserts and the modified 3135-ish movement in this sub: http://www.1-pc8838....er-p-13285.html Is it a better deal than a TC or BK? damn it, the site doesn't work now for me.... here on RWI a mate did comparison between Noob factory (BK) and "BP". TC is so far no ceramics version no ? http://www.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/mega-pics-submariner-133598.html and here is noob and TC ? he doesn't make ceramics subs yet no ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solkryssare 109 Posted February 13, 2013 The SEL fit alone on the noob is a no sale for me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeNnY 29 Posted February 13, 2013 So considering these inserts and the modified 3135-ish movement in this sub: http://www.1-pc8838....er-p-13285.html Is it a better deal than a TC or BK? Depends. The TC, is as you know the classic 16610 Sub. The noob Sub C is not as good as the BP me think this ^^ yes me thinks as well, only thing that BP needs is shorter crystal gasket as the crystal is too high, but easy mod Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luthier 1 Posted February 13, 2013 Kenny, bro, I'm sure you know, that all these "H-factory", "N-factory", "F-factory", etc, are just assembling workshops, they don't make even one single part of the watches, right? Dials/rehauts are made on different factories, not even always the same factory (remember wrong PAM dials run recently?), cases made at cases factories, same with bracelets, movt's, and all other parts of the watch. To say this insert is made at "XYZ-factory" is misleading. No rep. "factories" make ANY parts of the watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatarms 7,893 Posted February 13, 2013 Sorry, I thought TC also made ceramics. Thank you for the review link, Kenny. Good info, Solk, thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solkryssare 109 Posted February 13, 2013 True dat Kenny. The lazy solution to that would be just getting the no date one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeNnY 29 Posted February 13, 2013 Kenny, bro, I'm sure you know, that all these "H-factory", "N-factory", "F-factory", etc, are just assembling workshops, they don't make even one single part of the watches, right? Dials/rehauts are made on different factories, not even always the same factory (remember wrong PAM dials run recently?), cases made at cases factories, same with bracelets, movt's, and all other parts of the watch. To say this insert is made at "XYZ-factory" is misleading. No rep. "factories" make ANY parts of the watch. yes yes yes, factory assembly , we are in this line, I know they don't make, just saying final product what they assemble in this term make but still you don't see to disappear noob sub in just few minutes and completely different watch is made, also when you look at Hublot DIver 4000M you have V2 what is different factory with different parts, and then "V3" maker what is again different parts used. PS: Just in general knowledge that noob will know what watch is what, when he reads from DEaler that this is BP sub so he will know what he is talking about. I understand what you mean, different assembly workshops pushed to be called factory. So we can say BP is new assembly workshop with they own sources for parts, yes ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeNnY 29 Posted February 13, 2013 True dat Kenny. The lazy solution to that would be just getting the no date one I read somewhere that there is BP version of NO DATE sub as well ! saw one in m2m sales. but don't know if it was modded or really the dealers are selling one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solkryssare 109 Posted February 13, 2013 True dat Kenny. The lazy solution to that would be just getting the no date one I read somewhere that there is BP version of NO DATE sub as well ! saw one in m2m sales. but don't know if it was modded or really the dealers are selling one There is def a BPAS (assembly shop ) no date mate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeNnY 29 Posted February 13, 2013 True dat Kenny. The lazy solution to that would be just getting the no date one I read somewhere that there is BP version of NO DATE sub as well ! saw one in m2m sales. but don't know if it was modded or really the dealers are selling one There is def a BPAS (assembly shop ) no date mate I would check Josh site, if it was not under DDOS attack again LOL ok working now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeNnY 29 Posted February 13, 2013 So considering these inserts and the modified 3135-ish movement in this sub: http://www.1-pc8838....er-p-13285.html Is it a better deal than a TC or BK? and don't buy the 3135 CLONE but the CLONE ETA version, with only few "rolex" style bridges, as it is basically still CLONE ETA so easier to find spare parts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeNnY 29 Posted February 13, 2013 EMIL ! Get your money ready, found the NO DATE BP http://www.1-pc8838.com/rlss00028-114060-2012-nodate-p-13291.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites