baxter 6 Posted June 26, 2013 After trying to get a resolution with David but failing to get a response of any kind I gave one last chance yesterday telling him that I would be posting this but still nothing so here it is. I’m going to post this across all the forums which I am a member of – if anyone wishes to post this elsewhere … please be my guest !! I really wanted a nice gold 6263 vintage Tona and good old DW was the only place for me to get one. I’d heard the stories about DW but saw that he had TD status again & thought that he had cleared his original issues and people were getting watches & parts delivered. My first order with him actually turned up ( albeit with issues due to poor or no qc ) but hey, I was pleased to get one of his watches for a project base !! So I’m thinking ok the guy will actually send me a watch and I am prepared to deal with the issues myself. After asking him whether he had stock, I order the gold 6263 black dial on the 18th of March. He replies that he does, I promptly pp him $ 525.00 and receive a message that the watch will take around 10 days to put together and send. The next two months went by in a series of missed deadlines and broken promises at which point ( 17th May ) I asked him what was going on – he asked me for my payment details and agreed that he owed me one gold watch and it would ship in 10 days. I told him I would wait 10 days and no longer and he said it would ship on “ the 5 – 8 th June around “ I was on holiday until the 7th so thought I’d leave it until I got back and contacted him on the 8th and asked him whether the watch had been sent and if not to please refund me. Since then and despite numerous emails and PM’s he has refused to answer me I did wonder whether maybe his pm box was full and he had stopped using the email address I had for him ( or maybe stopped trading altogether ) so I got a friend to mail him on the 19th June with an order enquiry for a steel 6263 to which he seemed to have no problem responding to immediately : Yes have stock price is 390 usd plus 35 usd ship. I use WU now .if you accept .please let me know Many thanks --- 原始邮件 --- As I say I had an idea that there was an element of risk dealing with DW and I know a lot of you out there wouldn’t entertain the idea of trusting him, so this is certainly not a cry for sympathy but a warning to any of you who may be considering spending some of your hard earned with David and don’t know his history. Save your money and a lot of heartache and frustration…… in my experience it’s REALLY not worth it. Since starting this hobby I’ve bought and sold a lot watches and dealt with some great people,TDs modders and repairers. David Wong is DEFINITELY not one of them. If I’m honest I don’t see me recouping my money unless David does me the courtesy of returning my mails and acknowledging that he has taken my money and not sent me a watch. If anyone has any suggestions or advice I will be glad hear them. There is an old saying : “ only nothing is free “ …………………….. Apparently with David it costs $ 525.00 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WARBOT 0 Posted June 26, 2013 Sorry to hear that. I sincerely hope that you get a resolution quickly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffw69 0 Posted June 26, 2013 That sucks. Is DW the same as Davidsen Watches? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greg_r 86 Posted June 26, 2013 And this, folks, is why DW is no longer a trusted dealer here. We had endless problems with him 18 months back - he even went so far as to change his email addresses in an attempt to 'hide' from us! Lots of folks lost money and/or watches during that fiasco (see some of the issues for yourself - his old subforum is archived with others at the bottom of the board). http://www.rwg.bz/board/index.php?showforum=195 When things go okay, it's possible to get a decent watch from him, but when something isn't as it should be, he becomes impossible to deal with. God knows he was a nightmare for us! It absolutely astounds me that he's still trusted over at CLKC - that's irresponsible at best given the number of people he's ripped off. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD YOU CONSIDER DOING BUSINESS WITH DW!!! That sucks. Is DW the same as Davidsen Watches? No - Davidsen is DSN. Completely different (DSN is a good dealer) DW is aka David Wong - specialises in vintage Rolex etc. Did I mention he was an asshat? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pob 73 Posted June 26, 2013 Shit man I hope you'll get your money back :( or the watch! Always sorry to here things like this :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffw69 0 Posted June 26, 2013 Right, ok, thanks for clarifying Greg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Libertatia 0 Posted June 26, 2013 (edited) So many scams recently. Why are there so many dishonest people about? What is possibly going through David's head? Is it simply he can't be fucked? Or he knew from the beginning he was just going to rip someone off? Or did he just used your money to pay some bills? Edited June 26, 2013 by papabear Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greg_r 86 Posted June 26, 2013 So many scams recently. Why are there so many dishonest people about? What is possibly going through David's head? Is it simply he can't be fucked? Or he knew from the beginning he was just going to rip someone off? God knows - but someone doesn't change his web address, email address and ignore all attempts by board staff to contact him just because he 'can't be fucked' This guy is a scammer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silverspeed 10 Posted June 26, 2013 Typical DW......the guy is an asshole Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solkryssare 109 Posted June 26, 2013 Im sorry to hear this mate :( But yes, the guy is a twat....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silverspeed 10 Posted June 26, 2013 btw.....his gold 6263 is now $525? i bought mine for less then $300 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baxter 6 Posted June 26, 2013 Im sorry to hear this mate :( But yes, the guy is a twat....... He really is !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amit 72 Posted June 26, 2013 btw.....his gold 6263 is now $525? i bought mine for less then $300 i think you must have bought it when he had a special offer on that item,. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baxter 6 Posted June 26, 2013 btw.....his gold 6263 is now $525? i bought mine for less then $300 $ 490 + shipping Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Del 4,544 Posted June 26, 2013 Sorry to hear this mate. :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingle 57 Posted June 26, 2013 what did the CLCK mods say? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fetasigma 0 Posted June 26, 2013 yeah i got a watch from him not to long ago, dial was crap and the thing stopped working after 2 days........no response when i emailed him about it. i sent it to my local guy to get it serviced but WTF, if i am paying 400 bucks for a rep i expect it to last more than 2 days Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnPilot 1 Posted June 26, 2013 :shit: so much money, maybe there is some hope left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baxter 6 Posted June 26, 2013 what did the CLCK mods say? they said it was their policy to not get involved in private transactions. what does CLCK mean by the way ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingle 57 Posted June 26, 2013 what did the CLCK mods say? they said it was their policy to not get involved in private transactions. why was this considered a private transaction? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichardMiami 4 Posted June 26, 2013 Sorry to hear all this Baxter.... I hope that this attention gets noticed and he makes good on your refund! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baxter 6 Posted June 26, 2013 :shit: so much money, maybe there is some hope left. Hope so JP but if there was why wouldn't he just mail me back and keep me posted .... if there is then he's just lazy and incompetent with his business. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lukerenegade 0 Posted June 26, 2013 Ohh wow that hurts... Great to know especially for a neewbie like me! Thanks man and good luck! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amit 72 Posted June 26, 2013 what a bunch of dicks, bloody joke that forum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites