sconehead 5 Posted December 26, 2010 I've seen a lot of sales threads recently on the forums describing the ceramic GMT's as 'gen Swiss'. Considering it is an in house bastardized 2836-2 movement from a Chinese factory, how is this possible? Buyers are obviously being mislead somewhere, as for me anyway, every watch I've seen with a caseback off has been a modified Asian clone 2836-2 movement...discuss... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silverspeed 10 Posted December 26, 2010 Howsabout this one.... Although the modification for the GMT function is as Swiss as I am, surely the base movement can be Swiss just like any other 2836. Because of the modification I prefer the movement to be Swiss, in my mind this means less problems Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
digger2 0 Posted December 26, 2010 Here is mine. Bought as Swiss: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NFleischer 4,355 Posted December 26, 2010 I have to say those 2 look gen to me. Its hard to keep up with all the tells on the clones though. I read one thread saying anything stamped ETA was gen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brightlight 0 Posted December 26, 2010 The modification is only three parts, a calendar operation wheel with three pinions instead of the normal two, the extra one being to drive the 24H hand, an adjusting gear which fits on in place of the day setting lever, held on by the same screw. and finally the 24H wheel itself which is two pinions together with a clutch to allow the hand to be adjusted without disturbing anything else. Easily fitted to the 'swiss' movement if you have the parts. Simplez! Mind you I wonder if the Chinese have now caught on to the Novodiac balance mount, the only current difference between 'swiss' and clone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
