Bncrpt 1 Posted September 7, 2015 Hey guys after someone with more technical knowledge than myself! BP Deep Blue DSSD with Asian 2836 movement got it from m2m a while back, originally from MR from memory...has been working perfect for past month nearly daily wear however has stopped today. Palm smack face down, gentle waves of hand etc no go. Pull the crown time sets date sets etc etc all feels smooth as still. Tried hand winding feels like it is havent had chance to pop back as yet.Seconds hand has stopped at 12 o'clock position which was amusing lol Any suggestions fellas? Cheers Todd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gingerr6 1 Posted September 7, 2015 Get the back of. 1st part of anything like this. Screw could have come out and got stuck in the ballance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bncrpt 1 Posted September 7, 2015 Yeah im stuck on shift and the sticky ball doesnt fit in the kit lol Ill pop back once i knock off.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bncrpt 1 Posted September 8, 2015 Ok I've updated first post with pics of movement. Back was a pain to take off so ignore the residue on watch haha that's from the tape I had to use on my sticky ball as an extra assist!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bncrpt 1 Posted September 8, 2015 As usual wont let me edit on iPad so have to post here... Update: So back is off...nothing appears loose and nothing falls out with some gentle shaking. Rotor turns freely with tweezers and stops when you let off. When you hand wind it's very tight gears move rotor doesn't. Any suggestions fellas? Cheers Todd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JSJ 0 Posted September 8, 2015 Does the balance try to start at all? I'm assuming the second hand doesn't move even slightly. Could it be hitting a marker? Otherwise something is probably stuck inside. Have you shaken it about upside down? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bncrpt 1 Posted September 8, 2015 Hey...yeah ive given it a good manhandling lol nothing wants to dislodge. Seconds hand doesnt move at all and balance is a no no... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bncrpt 1 Posted September 8, 2015 Rotor and winding assembly removed for closer look that's about as far as I'm willing to go lol. Trying 5 upload pics from phone now. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bncrpt 1 Posted September 8, 2015 This is only thing I observed..appears a Gear tooth missing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JSJ 0 Posted September 8, 2015 This is only thing I observed..appears a Gear tooth missing? There you have it! At least you know now. That missing tooth is almost certainly stuck inside the movement somewhere. Well done! Now what will you do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Left Coast Guy 24 Posted September 8, 2015 Nice work....should be easy now. Dig around the balance wheel, pallet fork, etc, and find it. Got to be there blocking something. Can't remember the name of the part but part of the winding mechanism, should be easy to find on ebay or ofrei and replace. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GenTLe 1,509 Posted September 8, 2015 What JSJ said: that tooth can be wherever and block the movement. You need to replace that wheel (crown wheel, part 19 for ETA 2836/2824), unassemble, proper wash and lube correctly the reverse gears with Lubeta V105 (this is the cause of it being hard to handwind and most probably the cause of the broken tooth) and disassemble the movement to service it, clean it and remove that broken bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bncrpt 1 Posted September 9, 2015 Righto well that's a small achievement getting that far I guess..thanks guys for the info hey:) ...as for the repair that's out of my comfort zone I think! :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gingerr6 1 Posted September 9, 2015 Righto well that's a small achievement getting that far I guess..thanks guys for the info hey:)...as for the repair that's out of my comfort zone I think! :( Where are you ?? It looks like the balance will need removing and then the pallet fork. You can then test if the main train wheels move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bncrpt 1 Posted September 9, 2015 Australia buddy no tinkerers here unfortunately lol Yeah I have been looking at videos...and few guys been filling my head haha but not something I've done Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gingerr6 1 Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) Google watch repair talk YouTube. Mark does a great walkthrough on the 2824. Take of the rotor and auto wind mechanism. Remove the power from the main spring. Remove the balance bridge. Remove the pallet bridge and the pallet fork. Gently push the main barrel this in turn should move all the wheels on top if not then this will need to be stripped. Edited September 9, 2015 by gingerr6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bncrpt 1 Posted September 10, 2015 Got down as far as pallet bridge and my screwdriver was just too big! Damnit... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gingerr6 1 Posted September 10, 2015 Got down as far as pallet bridge and my screwdriver was just too big! Damnit... Does the fork " flick" ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bncrpt 1 Posted September 10, 2015 Yes seems to flick back n forth when u touch the balance wheel etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bncrpt 1 Posted September 10, 2015 Right so I think next question is whether any Aussie have found a watch Smith locally who will work on reps? Otherwise I think I'm shit outa luck..was sweating bullets tonight pullin this bastard down then reassembling. .little bits goin everywhere heart rate was thru the roof lol!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gingerr6 1 Posted September 10, 2015 Right need to remove the balance and pallet fork. Make sure all the power is removed from the main spring. Once off. With a tooth pick or something spin the main spring and make sure all the wheels move. Make sure the barrel goes all the way round a couple of times. ??? If it does then the watch should work !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bncrpt 1 Posted September 10, 2015 well holy shit i did it! pulled the pallet fork and bridge out finally and pretty sure a small tiny ass piece of gear came with it couldnt say for certain as it landed on carpet and i cant see the bastard nowlol reassembled and noticed after i gave the balance a flick it was all moving and just kept going! back together and resting for time being until i can get the crown gear replacement, any suggestions for best place to order this? Thanks for the tips guys feels like a pretty cool accomplishment to be honest! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JSJ 0 Posted September 10, 2015 Well done mate! It's a great feeling isn't it? Maybe someone has a shagged movement with a crown wheel going spare. I don't reckon I have but I can have a root round in a couple of days if you're still stuck. Keep us posted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
