Movements on the Zenith pilot Typ 20 ?

[MoSin 0]

Hello Mates .

 

See i was wondering ,

i really like the Zenith Pilot typ 20 , it's just an amazing piece .

 

But see on toro's , it's available in two options .

Option 1 : Asian 2824-2 Automatic Movement, 28800vph

Option 2 : A2892 movement 28800bph (+20 USD )

 

it's not about the extra 20 quid ,

i need a Good movement ,

and what's the Best i can get on this zenith watch ?

 

also , what's the gen's movement is like ?

 

I am a bit confused here .

what should i get ,

 

and are those two movements , automatic , or is one automatic and the other is hand wind ?

 

Cheers .

 

[BadPickle 2,749]

Have a butchers at this http://www.asthewatchturns.com/?page_id=112

 

Then have a shuffty here http://m.zenith-watches.com/en_en_m/pilot-type-20-extra-special-197.html

 

Without any knowledge whatsoever about the 2 movements, it seems that zenith uses its own "in house" movements for these anyway. Maybe they've renamed and modified th 2892?? You could always Google for more tech info

 

I'm sure one of the wannabes will be along soon.

[BadPickle 2,749]

It's a lovely watch though, I'm waiting for the bronze version

 

 

Keep us posted if you decide to buy mate

[GenTLe 1,509]

I would wait for this:

 

[MoSin 0]

I would wait for this:

 

 

 

I am Thinking about getting the Asian 2824-2 Automatic Movement, 28800vph

 

as Toro told me by PM , it's not about the Price , but it's a More reliable Movement .

 

and Damn that Bronze version is just epic , i would wait for the bronze one but dunno when the hell are they goin to make it ?

 

still Bronze would be my choice as-well , as i have a Stainless steel collection , a bronze one will be an addition .

And BTW it's my second rep .

 

after i got the first rep , damn , i just being robbed by the watch makers ......

Those Reps look just exactly the same , some really small differences , but still nobody will notice unless a watchmaker himself

 

beleive me , soon they're will be reps that can't be recognized as reps .

 

Cheers mate .

[KarmaToBurn 1,419]

I would wait for this:

 

 

 

I am Thinking about getting the Asian 2824-2 Automatic Movement, 28800vph

 

as Toro told me by PM , it's not about the Price , but it's a More reliable Movement .

 

and Damn that Bronze version is just epic , i would wait for the bronze one but dunno when the hell are they goin to make it ?

 

still Bronze would be my choice as-well , as i have a Stainless steel collection , a bronze one will be an addition .

And BTW it's my second rep .

 

after i got the first rep , damn , i just being robbed by the watch makers ......

Those Reps look just exactly the same , some really small differences , but still nobody will notice unless a watchmaker himself

 

beleive me , soon they're will be reps that can't be recognized as reps .

 

Cheers mate .

 

Bronze should be released VERY soon. Kuvarsit will have it first then the other dealers.

[Waipio Jeff 0]

I would wait for this:

 

 

 

I am Thinking about getting the Asian 2824-2 Automatic Movement, 28800vph

 

as Toro told me by PM , it's not about the Price , but it's a More reliable Movement .

 

and Damn that Bronze version is just epic , i would wait for the bronze one but dunno when the hell are they goin to make it ?

 

still Bronze would be my choice as-well , as i have a Stainless steel collection , a bronze one will be an addition .

And BTW it's my second rep .

 

after i got the first rep , damn , i just being robbed by the watch makers ......

Those Reps look just exactly the same , some really small differences , but still nobody will notice unless a watchmaker himself

 

beleive me , soon they're will be reps that can't be recognized as reps .

 

Cheers mate .

 

Bronze should be released VERY soon. Kuvarsit will have it first then the other dealers.

It is listed on their site today.

[GenTLe 1,509]

Ohi ohi... Pretty expensive :(

http://www.kuvarsit.watch/zenith/1-1-zenith-pilot-type-20-extra-special-bronze.-best-edition-from-kw/

[KarmaToBurn 1,419]

Ohi ohi... Pretty expensive :(

http://www.kuvarsit....dition-from-kw/

 

Yeah :( . About the same price as the Bronzo 382.

[ROLIE 46]

Have a butchers at this http://www.asthewatc...om/?page_id=112

 

Then have a shuffty here http://m.zenith-watc...pecial-197.html

 

Without any knowledge whatsoever about the 2 movements, it seems that zenith uses its own "in house" movements for these anyway. Maybe they've renamed and modified th 2892?? You could always Google for more tech info

 

I'm sure one of the wannabes will be along soon.

HI Pickle

 

just had a look at the links and the in house movement zenith show cal 3000 is a 2892 from the picture it has listed

[nikobrutus 0]

oh boy.....the bronze is what I'm waiting for.... damn was hoping it was gonna be cheaper than that!

[MoSin 0]

LOL , you're all waiting for the bronze , and now after the price tag , you just got disappointed >>>>>>>>

 

And Also , On the KW , i've noticed it's more Copper than Bronze if i am not mistaken ,

bronze is some where between Brown metallic and yellow copper .

this one on KW looks Copper version to me .

I got the Silver one By The way ,

The Bronze would've been nice , but same for the Silver , it's all about the strap ,

a Strap collection can make a watch look different .

 

Cheers

Edited November 17, 2015 by Sindako

[dmmoroney 0]

http://www.kuvarsit.watch/zenith-en/1-1-zenith-pilot-type-20-extra-special-bronze.-best-edition-from-kw/

 

As MoSin said, the Gen is a dirtier/darker color and the Rep is a really clean bright color. I wonder why that is?

[GenTLe 1,509]

http://www.kuvarsit.watch/zenith-en/1-1-zenith-pilot-type-20-extra-special-bronze.-best-edition-from-kw/

 

As MoSin said, the Gen is a dirtier/darker color and the Rep is a really clean bright color. I wonder why that is?

Because it is new bronze. Let it ossidate for some weeks and it will be the same.

[dmmoroney 0]

I'm familiar with oxidization lol, so Zenith just allows theirs to age prior to shipping. I see that the Rep is a Bronze/Copper alloy, I believe the Gen is just Bronze, no copper?

[elp 26]

I'm familiar with oxidization lol, so Zenith just allows theirs to age prior to shipping. I see that the Rep is a Bronze/Copper alloy, I believe the Gen is just Bronze, no copper?

 

Bronze is a copper alloy

[dmmoroney 0]

Ah, OK. The Zenith site just says Bronze, but the Reps say Bronze/Copper Alloy.

[elp 26]

Ah, OK. The Zenith site just says Bronze, but the Reps say Bronze/Copper Alloy.

 

Bronze can look very different depending on the degree of oxidation. Search the forum for Pam 382 - lots of different pictures at different stages. For the dark brown effect I suggest treating with liver of sulphur.

[dmmoroney 0]

Ah, OK. The Zenith site just says Bronze, but the Reps say Bronze/Copper Alloy.

 

Bronze can look very different depending on the degree of oxidation. Search the forum for Pam 382 - lots of different pictures at different stages. For the dark brown effect I suggest treating with liver of sulphur.

 

Great tip! Never heard of that before.

[elp 26]

Ah, OK. The Zenith site just says Bronze, but the Reps say Bronze/Copper Alloy.

 

Bronze can look very different depending on the degree of oxidation. Search the forum for Pam 382 - lots of different pictures at different stages. For the dark brown effect I suggest treating with liver of sulphur.

 

Great tip! Never heard of that before.

 

Look at this example: http://forums.watchu...g-698543-4.html

 

 

I think that's the look you're going for?

 

The good thing is you can play with different looks and decide what works for you ... here's another example

 

[dmmoroney 0]

Wow, that is pretty cool. That's got that Statue of Liberty patina look. I do prefer the first one though.

[dmmoroney 0]

I just noticed, looking at the bronze pilot on Perfect Clones, the movement is listed as a Miyota 9015, 21 Jewel. Isn't the Miyota 9015 24 Jewels?

[Hotdogsaregood 1]

Anyone order one of these in bronze yet? I'd love to hear some first-hand opinions on the rep.

[BadPickle 2,749]

Yes, search dfq23 he's made a big review