Brightlight 0 Posted January 25, 2011 I thought this was a very good post on the how to's of Forum Moderation (noticeably all the sensible points followed by our own Mods here) and deserved repetition. The RG mods could learn something from this IMO I'm not commenting the changes in RepGeek, I haven't read that forum in a while. Been too busy. I can hardly follow up what happens here. I'm now generally commenting our moderating ideology (and some background of it): Before I came here, I had very long experience of moderating a local lifting/fighting board (that me and 2 my partners ran). A place like that was full of narsistic, wannabe Internet tough guys (as you can imagine). That place was a hellhole. We tried everything, also the zero tolerance system, but it was a complete disaster. It simply doesn't work under any circumstances... when you start banning members and deleting threads there is no coming back. Eventually you have to ban more and more people because you have to enforce the rules similarly to everyone, and it only creates more drama and controversy. This is what "Junior" moderators and admin teams don't realize. You can't act impulsively and emotionally. Funnily in our case, the best way to silence the worst abusers was to flame them back. Most of those guys who liked to start stupid sh*t (for the sake of it) couldn't flame their way out of a wet paper bag. It's like in real life: People who bully others and make a lot of noise about themselves are often cowards and/or verbally "limited". Our team here share my views of this... we want RWG to be as "relaxed" and honest as possible. I've received pm's from my friends here and they have asked me to ban someone who's acting like a jerk. I have always said no. Our longtime members are entitled to their differing opinions and "bad hair days". If it's a new member and the behavior is very apparent and abusive we'll boot 'em. Sure there is a limit for the veterans too. We have banned two or three longtime members, but only after they have been acting like lunatic drama queens long enough, and thus, literally begging the banning for months. Usually these people have had some temporary health issues and after a while we've allowed them back. No hard feelings, it's just Internet. Typical problem is that admins and moderators think that they're above the members. That's not how it should be. Actually it's the other way around: we are working for YOU, the members. The problem is that you can't force a friendly atmosphere. Moderators and admins don't make the forum, the members do. There is very, very little to moderate. If someone likes to sh*t onto his own carpet, our members usually ask him to clean it up. We're not even needed because our core membership is mature and intelligent enough. RWG is, and will always be liberally moderated forum, where everyone can freely express their different opinions. You can also ask any questions you want from the admin team, because we play with open cards. We only close threads about politics, ethnic groups, religions and guns. There is very heavy reasoning behind this, because these discussions always turn friends to enemies and poison the atmosphere. We're mainly a watch forum, our aim is not to fix the human rights problems in China, save the whales, rain forests or change the gun laws. You can do it elsewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solkryssare 109 Posted January 25, 2011 Makes sense to me.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silverspeed 10 Posted January 25, 2011 One cannot disagree with what's being said by By-Tor I guess..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldrick 1 Posted January 25, 2011 Zat mean they are gonna welcome me back with open arms Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solkryssare 109 Posted January 25, 2011 No you belong here Baldy. We want your full attention here! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andygt 0 Posted January 25, 2011 Ah but they have the proof you is TTK, Baldrick! An IP address tracing back to Scotland is concrete evidence, no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Del 4,514 Posted January 25, 2011 Sounds sensible to me but I guess, like a lot of things, it is easier to say than to operate in practice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldrick 1 Posted January 25, 2011 No you belong here Baldy. We want your full attention here! Ahhh, Sol, you say the sweetest things,...you been at the bottle again @andy....yeah..resolves all the way back to Scotland, wonder how they'll react when I use a VPN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solkryssare 109 Posted January 25, 2011 No you belong here Baldy. We want your full attention here! Ahhh, Sol, you say the sweetest things,...you been at the bottle again No not today Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prestigewatchco 2 Posted January 25, 2011 Which forum is he talking about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wat44 0 Posted January 25, 2011 it gets confusing when they call themselves RWG... rwgforum http://www.rwgforum.com/topic/127541-cowardscom/page__st__20 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greg_r 83 Posted January 25, 2011 Which forum is he talking about? RWGJr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prestigewatchco 2 Posted January 25, 2011 I thought so but the minimum admin intervention and liberal attitude had me puzzled Must be a differnt RWGjr to the one I have seen where if 2Tone says shit they all go looking for a toilet after Ken of course!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prestigewatchco 2 Posted January 25, 2011 Sounds more like a description of here than RWGjr sure he is not mixed up. I know some of his reviews are directly from the rep fairy tale book but this is a big mistake to make confusing RWG with RWGjr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brightlight 0 Posted January 25, 2011 Sounds more like a description of here than RWGjr sure he is not mixed up. I know some of his reviews are directly from the rep fairy tale book but this is a big mistake to make confusing RWG with RWGjr Doesn't alter the fact though, whether they follow this code or not, what he says makes a lot of sense and shows IMO where RG is going wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prestigewatchco 2 Posted January 25, 2011 Whats the point of saying then being unable to implement it as a mod yourself. RG are going no more wrong that RWGjr themselves of all the major forum the only one that fits the description of his perfect forum is this and he will not come here because he will be told the truth about his veiws and actions Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebzen02 341 Posted January 25, 2011 I think he has a bit of forum envy.. He wishes he could be like use, but instead, he is trapped in that god awful knitting club.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebzen02 341 Posted January 25, 2011 Whats the point of saying then being unable to implement it as a mod yourself. RG are going no more wrong that RWGjr themselves And Www.Sauce-check.com aka.. Www.wrist-check.com Btw, I am going there right now to call him a big fat asshole..testing this post folks.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andygt 0 Posted January 25, 2011 Ebz, at this rate you'll have a clean sweep of bans by the end of the week! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prestigewatchco 2 Posted January 25, 2011 Yes EBZ don't be mislead into thinking what he is dreaming about in his post is the way it is there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebzen02 341 Posted January 25, 2011 Yes EBZ don't be mislead into thinking what he is dreaming about in his post is the way it is there LOL.. TTK haunts me.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ebzen02 341 Posted January 25, 2011 wrote my thoughts over there.. but with a bit of restraint.. Don't want to get banned from a knitting club.. How embarrassing..LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deanr 0 Posted January 25, 2011 RG admins get boners from clicking the close threads and ban buttons, no rational argument can counteract psychological programming that deep Share this post Link to post Share on other sites