What's so nice about the Panerai 1950's case?

[boredpanda 1]

This is an impromptu question, need some help understanding how nice are the Panerai 1950's case..

 

I've always read that it's "something more" or "something special", well I can't understand that now as I don't own one yet.

 

Have always owned dressier watches myself (and prefer them, with the exception of some seiko divers).

The PAM111 is my first "huge" watch (this makes my seiko monster/poor man marine master look small)

 

Is 47mm the smallest 1950's case?

Do pam 372 and 372 wear similar?

Does the 1950's case wear easy or does it wear large? (I have tiny wrist, measured at 6.5")

 

So many questions..

 

Feel free to post some pictures of your PAM with 1950's case and how nice it wears!

[greg_r 83]

1: a PAM111 is not huge. If anything it wears small for 44mm.

 

2: So-called '1950s' cases come in both 44 & 47mm, but the classic modern '50s style PAM is the Fiddy (PAM 127) which is indeed 47mm. It's a big watch, but doesn't wear as big as you might expect for 47mm. It will still slide under a shirt cuff if you're so inclined.

 

Here's one of mine:

 

[Khronos 1,339]

I hate Luminor cases, they don't feel right. 1950 is the only way to go for me. It has a better looking shape and the crown guard is much nicer.

As boss has already explained they come in 47 and 44mm and a 44mm 1950 wears bigger than a Luminor, but very comfortable. I have an 18cm ( little bigger than yours, but it's flat on the top ) wrist and I think I can pull off both. 372 and 372 are the same watch

 

Here are mine-47mm 372 and a 44mm 243

 

 

[boredpanda 1]

1: a PAM111 is not huge. If anything it wears small for 44mm.

 

2: So-called '1950s' cases come in both 44 & 47mm, but the classic modern '50s style PAM is the Fiddy (PAM 127) which is indeed 47mm. It's a big watch, but doesn't wear as big as you might expect for 47mm. It will still slide under a shirt cuff if you're so inclined.

 

Here's one of mine:

 

 

Hmm, how does it wear small for a 44mm? You mean like compared to 44mm round watches?

Would the fiddy/submersible/bronzo all wear similarly? Or are they vastly different..

 

Any experience with the bronzo?

 

I hate Luminor cases, they don't feel right. 1950 is the only way to go for me. It has a better looking shape and the crown guard is much nicer.

As boss has already explained they come in 47 and 44mm and a 44mm 1950 wears bigger than a Luminor. I have an 18cm wrist and I think I can pull off both:

 

 

 

Luminor too square-ish for you? =P I don't know about myself but I find the left side of the case a little bit boring (the curves on 1950's look nicer).

Also, how do you think the fiddy/submersible/bronzo compare?

[Bidle 0]

Really love the 1950 case. The shape and also that it is partial brushed!

 

Here are mines. The ceramic cases wear a lot smaller, because of the color. Also what plays a major part is the sapphire glass!! If it is a domed sapphire than it also wears a lot smaller on the wrist. ;-)

 

 

The more classic 329,.. do wear it most of the time on leather:

 

The ceramic case with domed sapphire glass,... a 317k really love this watch:

 

The sturdy roughneck 243:

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[greg_r 83]

The subs/bronzo wear larger due to the chunky case shape.

[Left Coast Guy 24]

The 1950 case on the 127 is a little curved so it wraps around your wrist, making it feel a lot smaller on your wrist than you'd expect for the size of the watch. But I like all the PAM cases, so I don't really see a huge difference.

[mysterio 18]

 

1: a PAM111 is not huge. If anything it wears small for 44mm.

 

2: So-called '1950s' cases come in both 44 & 47mm, but the classic modern '50s style PAM is the Fiddy (PAM 127) which is indeed 47mm. It's a big watch, but doesn't wear as big as you might expect for 47mm. It will still slide under a shirt cuff if you're so inclined.

 

Here's one of mine:

 

 

Hmm, how does it wear small for a 44mm? You mean like compared to 44mm round watches?

Would the fiddy/submersible/bronzo all wear similarly? Or are they vastly different..

 

Any experience with the bronzo?

 

I hate Luminor cases, they don't feel right. 1950 is the only way to go for me. It has a better looking shape and the crown guard is much nicer.

As boss has already explained they come in 47 and 44mm and a 44mm 1950 wears bigger than a Luminor. I have an 18cm wrist and I think I can pull off both:

 

 

 

Luminor too square-ish for you? =P I don't know about myself but I find the left side of the case a little bit boring (the curves on 1950's look nicer).

Also, how do you think the fiddy/submersible/bronzo compare?

 

Fiddy Bronzo comparison (the Bronzo is also a submersible so I did not include one anymore)

 

 

As you can see, the lugs on the Fiddy flare out further compared to the Bronzo so that helps in making the watch hug your wrist better. Although the bezel on the submariner makes the watch rise (the sub case sits higher than the fiddy's based on the height of the CG), the fiddy's crystal actually seems to level and maybe even beat the height of the submersible.

[EBWing 0]

The Pam 127 is a great looking case with amazing lines 47mm is tiny I prefer the 60mm EGI

 

[Baldrick 1]

I like the case shape of the Fiddys....I know gold is not to everyone's taste, but I wear mine frequently, always gets a nice response, as said, doesn't wear as big as you might think.

 

[boredpanda 1]

 

1: a PAM111 is not huge. If anything it wears small for 44mm.

 

2: So-called '1950s' cases come in both 44 & 47mm, but the classic modern '50s style PAM is the Fiddy (PAM 127) which is indeed 47mm. It's a big watch, but doesn't wear as big as you might expect for 47mm. It will still slide under a shirt cuff if you're so inclined.

 

Here's one of mine:

 

 

Hmm, how does it wear small for a 44mm? You mean like compared to 44mm round watches?

Would the fiddy/submersible/bronzo all wear similarly? Or are they vastly different..

 

Any experience with the bronzo?

 

I hate Luminor cases, they don't feel right. 1950 is the only way to go for me. It has a better looking shape and the crown guard is much nicer.

As boss has already explained they come in 47 and 44mm and a 44mm 1950 wears bigger than a Luminor. I have an 18cm wrist and I think I can pull off both:

 

 

 

Luminor too square-ish for you? =P I don't know about myself but I find the left side of the case a little bit boring (the curves on 1950's look nicer).

Also, how do you think the fiddy/submersible/bronzo compare?

 

Fiddy Bronzo comparison (the Bronzo is also a submersible so I did not include one anymore)

 

 

As you can see, the lugs on the Fiddy flare out further compared to the Bronzo so that helps in making the watch hug your wrist better. Although the bezel on the submariner makes the watch rise (the sub case sits higher than the fiddy's based on the height of the CG), the fiddy's crystal actually seems to level and maybe even beat the height of the submersible.

 

Hmm that's a nice direct comparison. So the submersible will look like how the bronzo is? (essentially same case just different material)

The brushed side of the fiddy and the crystal looks nice!

 

The Pam 127 is a great looking case with amazing lines 47mm is tiny I prefer the 60mm EGI

 

 

Holy crap! It looks good! But high doubt I can pull that monster off.

 

I like the case shape of the Fiddys....I know gold is not to everyone's taste, but I wear mine frequently, always gets a nice response, as said, doesn't wear as big as you might think.

 

 

I'd guess this is also 47mm huh.

Doesn't look too bad, any chance of a wristie?

[Daywatch 4]

4me it´s the curvy lines that grow on You and You don´t want to miss them, as a watch it´s like the coachwork of a Duesenberg car or a classic, wooden Riviera sportsboat.

44mm PAM212 Flyback with the domed crystal, it produces the nicest angles and reflections in sunlight, at dusk or at night and is comfortable on the wrist.

 

[UmpaHimself 223]

The 1950's case is great on the 47mm pieces. I like the Luminor case better in the 44mm size. The 47mm 372 and similar wear really well for their size, partially due to how secure it sits with the wide lug/strap size.

 

056 = 44mm

056 by Tyler David, on Flickr

 

372=47mm

327 by Tyler David, on Flickr

 

PAM372 Point Dume by Tyler David, on Flickr

 

PAM372 Gold Hands by Tyler David, on Flickr

[Khronos 1,339]

It's not just the wrist size, it's also the shape of your wrist that plays a major role in the way a watch would fit and look on you.

You just have to try different ones and see for yourself, that's what I did. You can still flip the watch if you don't like it. That's what I did and now I know I'll never buy a Luminor or a Radiomir case again. Ever. It just doesn't look right to me.

You have a fantastic oportunity to try a 47mm 1950 case, Torobravo has the Noob 372 on special, for 159$ I believe.

[grb 1]

Tiny bit picky but I think the 253 and it's derivatives are 45mm, I think there are some 40mm Radiomir fiddy case models, check Baxters collection I think he has one

[Abe Fromen 1,624]

I started with gen luminors more than 10 years ago. At various points I had a 5iver, a 01 and then a 210 rad. I've had a variety of rep PAMs in Luminor case and fiddy and I have to say that I much prefer the fiddy case over the luminor. For my flat topped wrist, it sits better and looks much nicer too. IIRC the Luminor case doesn't have any historical relevance other than being the first 'Panerai' to be sold mass-market. There's no real war or military history with the luminor case as it was designed in the 1990s (correct me if I'm wrong) whereas the fiddy case was the original WWII case, along with the radiomir case.

 

But that's just a historical splitting of hairs. To me, the luminor case looks unfinished compared to the fiddy. The rad case even more finished and comfortable, to me... there's not a sharp corner on the rad. But the new 'rad' cases Panerai is making with the rad body but without the wire lugs, seems the best of both worlds. Plus IIRC they are available in smaller sizes too. Might have to get a rep of one of those to check it out.

[boredpanda 1]

4me it´s the curvy lines that grow on You and You don´t want to miss them, as a watch it´s like the coachwork of a Duesenberg car or a classic, wooden Riviera sportsboat.

44mm PAM212 Flyback with the domed crystal, it produces the nicest angles and reflections in sunlight, at dusk or at night and is comfortable on the wrist.

 

Yeah I get the appeal of the curvy line. I once saw someone wear a rattrapante and that was when I started seeing the appeal in the curved case.

 

The 1950's case is great on the 47mm pieces. I like the Luminor case better in the 44mm size. The 47mm 372 and similar wear really well for their size, partially due to how secure it sits with the wide lug/strap size.

 

372=47mm

327 by Tyler David, on Flickr

 

PAM372 Point Dume by Tyler David, on Flickr

 

PAM372 Gold Hands by Tyler David, on Flickr

 

Hmm, are there any good versions of 372 currently?

 

It's not just the wrist size, it's also the shape of your wrist that plays a major role in the way a watch would fit and look on you.

You just have to try different ones and see for yourself, that's what I did. You can still flip the watch if you don't like it. That's what I did and now I know I'll never buy a Luminor or a Radiomir case again. Ever. It just doesn't look right to me.

You have a fantastic oportunity to try a 47mm 1950 case, Torobravo has the Noob 372 on special, for 159$ I believe.

 

Guess you're right, I could flip them. Have to find some version that are easier to flip though.

Also, where I live makes it harder to flip watches as I see most people are in the EU/US region (have to incur more shipping cost)

 

Tiny bit picky but I think the 253 and it's derivatives are 45mm, I think there are some 40mm Radiomir fiddy case models, check Baxters collection I think he has one

 

Not very familiar with these models =P I'll look them up!

 

 

Guess I might consider getting a bronzo somewhere down the road.. at least just to try it out.

 

Anyone has the bronzo and knows if the bronze may leech off the skin? I have a bronze bracelet that leeches onto my skin after it oxidizes (maybe due to sweat) and my skin looks green-ish where the bracelet is.

[Jonj480 0]

I think my all time favorite Panerai is the 359. Love the lume color, the 1950's case and the fact that it is automatic with a date. Definitely a favorite of mine, along with the 243. If I am gonna go big with a PAM, it is gonna be a sub, like the 187 or bronzo.

 

 

[Bluenose 6]

I think the 1950 case is amazing. I've just picked up a homage 127 and it wears perfect.I like the 44m PAMs but wasn't sure whether 47mm would be too big....I've 7" wrist.

So comfortable.

I'd expect the super rep version to wear even better.

 

[grb 1]

I think these might be 1940's case

 

PAM512 42mm

 

PAM515 42mm

[Genius 281]

44mm 1950 case is my favourite pam style is the curves that do it..

 

The luminor is an awesome watch too though but as it's chunkier it has a more utilitarian feel to me...

 

Of my 2 pams, one Luminor an one 1950 I more often go for the 50 but think tomorrow I'll be wearing the luminor as it hasn't been out of the box for a while

[boredpanda 1]

I think my all time favorite Panerai is the 359. Love the lume color, the 1950's case and the fact that it is automatic with a date. Definitely a favorite of mine, along with the 243. If I am gonna go big with a PAM, it is gonna be a sub, like the 187 or bronzo.

 

 

 

Your 359 looks fantastic! What is the maker for these?

 

I think the 1950 case is amazing. I've just picked up a homage 127 and it wears perfect.I like the 44m PAMs but wasn't sure whether 47mm would be too big....I've 7" wrist.

So comfortable.

I'd expect the super rep version to wear even better.

 

 

Only have 6.5" wrist here. Which super rep are you looking at?

 

I think these might be 1940's case

 

PAM512 42mm

 

PAM515 42mm

 

These shots looks amazing! And looks so bloody thin, these are gen pics right?

 

44mm 1950 case is my favourite pam style is the curves that do it..

 

The luminor is an awesome watch too though but as it's chunkier it has a more utilitarian feel to me...

 

Of my 2 pams, one Luminor an one 1950 I more often go for the 50 but think tomorrow I'll be wearing the luminor as it hasn't been out of the box for a while

 

Good to hear that!

 

Seems like a PAM with 1950's case is going to be in the pipelines, now to decide on the model/maker (382 will be a strong contender here)

 

Anyone knows if the KW Bronzo from Toro is $448 using WU or $328 as listed on his website? (seems the ZF is even more expensive at $398? even though i read that KW is the better make)

[grb 1]

I think these might be 1940's case

 

PAM512 42mm

 

PAM515 42mm

 

These shots looks amazing! And looks so bloody thin, these are gen pics right?

 

 

No these are both from my private collection

 

 

Baxter has the rep version of the 512 ask for a pic I think you might like it

[insert-here 0]

This is my 337 42mm. Wears nice for my small wrist 6-1/4".

 

[Bidle 0]

Nice, but somehow I think the 45mm is more in balance.