gB. 0 Posted March 22, 2011 I love my $99 PAM 183 I got from Robert a while back so much that I am ready to upgrade to the best 183 out there. Looking for the best build quality, accuracy, possible Swiss movement options, etc. Any advice or direction is much appreciated. Thank you for your help! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wombosi 0 Posted March 22, 2011 As far as I know there is no (new) ultimate 183 with things like flush cp, proper AR and Gen-like lume color out-of-the-box rep available (yet). Too bad, because I really want one too! For exactly the same reason as you btw Someone please tell me I'm wrong... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wat44 0 Posted March 23, 2011 you are wrong Mary has it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mazz 62 Posted March 23, 2011 i think that Robert has it also Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alw 0 Posted March 23, 2011 Any interest in an Eddie Lee version? I might have one for sale... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wombosi 0 Posted March 23, 2011 Could you guys please provide a link for Mary's and possibly Robert's (latest) ultimate 183? I can't remember seeing a version which met the above mentioned specifications. Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gB. 0 Posted March 24, 2011 Any interest in an Eddie Lee version? Anyone know any details on what an "Eddie Lee" version of the 183 is? First I've heard of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prestigewatchco 2 Posted March 24, 2011 Most likely they are calling the earlier model Eddy Lee version Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alw 0 Posted March 24, 2011 Anyone have info of Eddie Lee reps? I understand his reps were superior once. How sought after are they and do they still compete with today´s super reps? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prestigewatchco 2 Posted March 24, 2011 Not exactly correct ALW lots of older reps were good and now not made any more EL was only a dealer and many dealers supplied the same watches as EL so there are no real EL exclusives. It is a myth that has been brought about by some of the Panerai experts to bolster the value of some of their reps they have over spent on modding Current 127 cases are rear loading because it's better and easier but some people rave about front loading it was done by the factories originally because they didn't know any better when they did they made them back loading with correct movement holding tabs rather than the front loading that were held in place by a screw catching the side of the case There have been some recent productions with front loading cases I myself had some 18 months ago I think the 127 Greg r has is front loading so this was long after EL had left the scene and dispelling the myth Same with the 183 the only significant change has been the dial with the placement of the Black seal text again I had some 12 months ago with the old text and swiss movements so again dispelling the EL myth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alw 0 Posted March 24, 2011 Not exactly correct ALW lots of older reps were good and now not made any more EL was only a dealer and many dealers supplied the same watches as EL so there are no real EL exclusives. It is a myth that has been brought about by some of the Panerai experts to bolster the value of some of their reps they have over spent on modding Current 127 cases are rear loading because it's better and easier but some people rave about front loading it was done by the factories originally because they didn't know any better when they did they made them back loading with correct movement holding tabs rather than the front loading that were held in place by a screw catching the side of the case There have been some recent productions with front loading cases I myself had some 18 months ago I think the 127 Greg r has is front loading so this was long after EL had left the scene and dispelling the myth Same with the 183 the only significant change has been the dial with the placement of the Black seal text again I had some 12 months ago with the old text and swiss movements so again dispelling the EL myth OK, thanks for the info Robert! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gB. 0 Posted March 24, 2011 So since the movement is front loading, do you have to take out the crystal in order to remove it, versus just the caseback on current rep versions? Seems that would be a PITA to have to do that for any servicing of the movement, reluming, cp fix, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prestigewatchco 2 Posted March 24, 2011 Yes Bezel and crystal would have to come off to get movement out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gB. 0 Posted March 24, 2011 Yes Bezel and crystal would have to come off to get movement out Yikes... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wombosi 0 Posted April 3, 2011 Where you able to find a satisfactory Ultimate 183 at Mary or Robert, GBOGH? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KBH 7 Posted April 3, 2011 DSN was making some very nice 183s a while back. Might be worth checking into. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silverspeed 10 Posted April 3, 2011 Could you guys please provide a link for Mary's and possibly Robert's (latest) ultimate 183? I can't remember seeing a version which met the above mentioned specifications. Thanks! This one is from Robert, a very nice 183H with flush CP, sapphire crystal and swiss based 6497 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wombosi 0 Posted April 3, 2011 Looking good Silver! Nice Toscana strap too btw. How are AR (1) and daylight lume (2) color on this one? Not too blue (1) and yellowish/greenish (2)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phanto 0 Posted April 16, 2011 i have the same one, Lume is greenish, needs a relume AR isn't fantastic, I'd recommend removing it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wombosi 0 Posted May 15, 2011 i have the same one, Lume is greenish, needs a relume AR isn't fantastic, I'd recommend removing it Did you get yours at Robert? Because I saw another topic about a 183 from Mary, where you claimed to have the same watch as well. I am asking because there could be a difference in AR depending on the dealer. Trying to sort out which have blueish AR and which don't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silverspeed 10 Posted May 15, 2011 The one I have from Robert does not have the typical blue AR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wombosi 0 Posted May 15, 2011 Thanks Silver. How about the lume color and intensity? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silverspeed 10 Posted May 15, 2011 It's not superlumed...but better then average lume, indices have the correct clour when uncharged Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wombosi 0 Posted May 15, 2011 Sounds exactly like what I am looking for: any chance this was the one you ordered? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
