SheikhRashid 0 Posted February 27, 2018 I've decided that I'm going to purchase a Noob Factory Rolex Submariner, now it comes to the tough choice of deciding which model to pick. From my research, here is the list of pros and cons. Why V7>V8 Cheaper Can choose ETA 2836 movement which is more reliable and easier to source parts Smoother feeling edges according to this review Why V8>V7 Better feeling bracelet according to this review Improved bezel insert according to this review 904L steel, which is the same as genuine That's all I've been able to find so far. Any other information from you guys? Also need to decide whether I should go for a Hulk or black, but I'll leave that till later Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatarms 7,806 Posted February 27, 2018 A2836 or A2824 whenever possible is what I live by. No difference between the inserts. You're paying for the "Rolex" (lol) movement and the 904 steel which is basically indistinguishable with the V7. The thing is, the insert engravings are too dark in low light and almost disappear. It's amazing to me that they can get a clone movement in these things but can't get the fucking bezel insert engravings right. You'd think after 8 tries, they'd at least make some kind of progress... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrismac 0 Posted February 27, 2018 904L but not as genuine, it's the cheaper 904L on the market. Rolex chose to use this variety of steel (SAE 904L grade stainless steel) because it takes a higher polish than other grades of steel and provides greater corrosion resistance, though it does not machine as well and requires specialized equipment to be properly modified into the required shapes. Replica market have not really this kind of specialized equipment, cause it's extremely expensive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deju 1,889 Posted February 27, 2018 21 minutes ago, chrismac said: 904L but not as genuine, it's the cheaper 904L on the market. Rolex chose to use this variety of steel (SAE 904L grade stainless steel) because it takes a higher polish than other grades of steel and provides greater corrosion resistance, though it does not machine as well and requires specialized equipment to be properly modified into the required shapes. Replica market have not really this kind of specialized equipment, cause it's extremely expensive. Strange 2fake4u has lab results testing ARF 904l bracelet links versus Rolex standards and the results showed it was the same.... Please tell us more about your scientific research ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUSH2112 11 Posted February 27, 2018 This is a cleverly disguised who has the best sub thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glaude 1,615 Posted February 27, 2018 48 minutes ago, deju said: Strange 2fake4u has lab results testing ARF 904l bracelet links versus Rolex standards and the results showed it was the same.... Please tell us more about your scientific research ? If I recall correctly, his test only showed that the ARF model was indeed 904L low grade but not compared them with a gen Rolex. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bogdan.manea 0 Posted February 27, 2018 Where would you like to buy from?! What TD?!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SheikhRashid 0 Posted February 27, 2018 2 hours ago, bogdan.manea said: Where would you like to buy from?! What TD?! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Either PerfectClones or Torrobravo, not sure yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GC 4,523 Posted February 27, 2018 1 hour ago, SheikhRashid said: Either PerfectClones or Torrobravo, not sure yet. Let me change your mind... $300 from Marvellousreplica for a V7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarryHaddock 0 Posted February 27, 2018 Ohman so much choice ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SheikhRashid 0 Posted February 27, 2018 57 minutes ago, GC said: Let me change your mind... $300 from Marvellousreplica for a V7 Damn that's a good price! Ideally looking for one with an SA3135 movement though as heard the A2836 can be a bit loud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JSJ 0 Posted February 27, 2018 Damn that's a good price! Ideally looking for one with an SA3135 movement though as heard the A2836 can be a bit loud. Loud? Loud? Some of this stuff is unbelievable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SheikhRashid 0 Posted February 27, 2018 2 hours ago, JSJ said: Loud? Loud? Some of this stuff is unbelievable. Only going by what I've read in reviews. Also heard there's a problem with the date wheel lining up perfectly on the A2836. Again, this is just what I've learnt from reviews. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadPickle 2,802 Posted February 27, 2018 12 minutes ago, SheikhRashid said: Only going by what I've read in reviews. Also heard there's a problem with the date wheel lining up perfectly on the A2836. Again, this is just what I've learnt from reviews. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JSJ 0 Posted February 27, 2018 Only going by what I've read in reviews. Also heard there's a problem with the date wheel lining up perfectly on the A2836. Again, this is just what I've learnt from reviews.Datewheels can be a challenge. Movements vary in the noise they make. Not just on subs.If I may give a perspective:Reps vary. One can be loud (but really, that's not the right adjective). One can be quiet. Same watch, same movement. Different sound. I have a lot of A2824/36 (very similar movements) and none of them have been as noisy as some other different types of movement. One datewheel overlay or printing can be slightly off, the next batch (or watch) can be perfect. If you ever try and fit an overlay you will exactly understand that.Partly, the way to start this hobby is by reading like you obviously have, which is great and it's what we always ask of a noob.The other part is knowing that you need a bit of luck because of the random nature of reps and the fact that you can't just send it back.That's why I always give my main piece of advice:Write off the money you spend on a rep and be happy when the watch arrives and works. If you can't afford that, then buy a Seiko for the same money from Amazon or a local shop.I hope you find what you are looking for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siktir03 0 Posted February 28, 2018 hey @SheikhRashid i also want a noob and don't know yet which I will get v7 or v8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MidasXL8 0 Posted February 28, 2018 I ended up getting a silver fine tip sharpie and slowly filling in the numbers on the bezel on my nv7. I used a micro fiber cloth to wipe away any excess sharpie that got on the ceramic portion. It wiped right off but made the engraved numbers brighter. I was worried the sharpie would permanently be on the bezel but the cloth took it off well. that being said the a2824 movement has been perfectly accurate and I'm really happy with it. I would save some cash and get the V7 with a sharpie mod or platinum paint mod. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narikaa 129 Posted February 28, 2018 Word is the V9 (or possibly V10) will have MASSIVE upgrades Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JSJ 0 Posted February 28, 2018 Word is the V9 (or possibly V10) will have MASSIVE upgradesAgreed. This V thing is so very sad.I have a V4 (or was it 5?) which was KeNnY's with his lume. I have never spent the time trying to work out the 'flaws'. Looks like a rep sub to me. Like all of them do, including the gens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wriggles 12 Posted February 28, 2018 20 hours ago, JSJ said: If you can't afford that, then buy a Seiko for the same money from Amazon or a local shop. All fantastic advice, except possibly this. I'd have been the first to say get a Seiko, except recently there seems to have been/is a lot of quality issues. A lot of reports of samurais with crown alignment issues, and the recent 62mas Prospex reimaginings seem to have dial/chapter-ring/bezel alignment issues. These are not exactly cheap Seiko's! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siktir03 0 Posted February 28, 2018 when is the v9 coming? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greg_r 83 Posted February 28, 2018 next week, most likely - followed by a v10 the week after... :yawn: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nunu78 1,743 Posted February 28, 2018 @SheikhRashidlove you nick name :), welcome mate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blehbleh215 0 Posted February 28, 2018 On 2/26/2018 at 23:46, GC said: Let me change your mind... $300 from Marvellousreplica for a V7 This price tag is really a steal. Wondering does he offer discount on VR Sub Share this post Link to post Share on other sites