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JohnG

I am starting to look at more and more "gen" Chinese manufactured watches, looking for potential watches to get a "Pyrolume" treatment (see thread http://www.replica-watch-guide.net/forum/i...?showtopic=1449 amd http://www.replica-watch-guide.net/forum/i...showtopic=1496)

 

 

I found this one last night - don't know if it is gen-gen or gen/knockoff but with a 24mm beefy distressed strap and a Pyrolume style dial, this could be fucking awesome.... or am I wrong? Pyro doesn't do chronos but if you have a cnc machine to cut dials, why the hell not? I would eliminate date window, keep subdials... Post your suggestions here...

 

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mtt.tr

i just brought a ik colouring automatic looks rather nice.

 

And i brought a eyik watch wholesale as im looking at selling Chinese gens on flebay

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NFleischer

sorry -not for me.

too many other discounts on swiss- either cheapie like Hamilton or used.

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greg_r

I think it all depends on how well the watch is made. Some of those cheapie Chinese 'gens' don't last 15 minutes... Interesting idea, though - with the right watch (something that has a quality feel) you could be onto a winner.

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mtt.tr

this is my watch

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Luthier

You bought it or you sell it?

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mtt.tr

not thats is for me if i can find a good supplier then i will sell if it if any interest arises

 

This is what im selling i have brought one to make sure the site is legit

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Then i might sell this once i have made enough profit to but them in

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Luthier

Are you in HK?

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mtt.tr
Are you in HK?

 

yer the supplier is

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Luthier
Are you in HK?

 

yer the supplier is

Then who is joy11891666?

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mtt.tr
Are you in HK?

 

yer the supplier is

Then who is joy11891666?

 

i got mine from ebay only found a supplier for that watch recently sorry for the confusion

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JohnG
I think it all depends on how well the watch is made. Some of those cheapie Chinese 'gens' don't last 15 minutes... Interesting idea, though - with the right watch (something that has a quality feel) you could be onto a winner.

Well the cheapie I got for 11gbp shipped is the same one lololo (Pyrolume) swaps dials on and auctions off - last went for $222. Now he has another on there (same watch) that is bidding at $80 w/ four days to go... again, minus the superlumed custom dial, you can get this for 11gbp...

 

 

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And as for the "Apogaum" line - been favorably reviewed on TZ or WUS, can't remember which...

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greg_r

Cool - I certainly like the look of the Apogaum you posted. Interesting case shape.

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mtt.tr

what do you think of my cheap ik colouring

 

Cant get the eyik due demand so im going to look at other stuff

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JohnG
what do you think of my cheap ik colouring

 

Cant get the eyik due demand so im going to look at other stuff

 

I am not into skeleton watches but Greg LOVES them - hopefully he will give you his opinion....

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mtt.tr
what do you think of my cheap ik colouring

 

Cant get the eyik due demand so im going to look at other stuff

 

I am not into skeleton watches but Greg LOVES them - hopefully he will give you his opinion....

 

i wasnt until i brought that one now i fully understand and love them

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JohnG

Thanks man!

 

 

Hey Col (if you're around) what do you think of THIS machine for dial fabrication....

 

http://www.maxnc.com/maxnc_5___open_loop.htm

 

 

TRAVELS INCHES METRIC

Maximum X Axis 6.0" 203.20 mm

Maximum Y Axis 5.5" 127.00 mm

Maximum Z Axis 4.0" 152.40 mm

STANDARD TABLE

Length 10.0" 304.8 mm

Width 4.0" 101.6 mm

T-Slot Width 0.500" 12.70 mm

T-Slot Center Distance

Number of T-Slots 3 3

STANDARD SPINDLE

Type Dremmel

Max RPM

Drive System Direct Direct

Max HP Rating

AXIS MOTORS THRUST

Max Rating X, Y and Z 70 Oz-Inch

FEED RATES

Max Cutting 30 Inch per Min 1524 mm/min

ACCURACY

Positioning 0.00025" 0.00635 mm

Repeatability 0.00025" 0.00635 mm

GENERAL

Machine Weight (Shipping) 70 LBS 32 kg

Power Required 110 V AC

 

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JohnG

@Col:

 

Here's another for cheap - opinions?

http://www.deepgroove1.com/maxnc/maxnc.htm

 

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FEATURE

 

MAX 10

 

Spindle motor

 

1/5hp

 

Variable speed control

 

0-10,000

 

Max clearance, table to spindle

8.00" (203 mm)

 

Travel, "X" Axis

10.0" 302.26 mm

 

Travel, "Y" Axis

5.00" (127 mm)

 

Travel, "Z" Axis

6.00" (137 mm).

 

Hole through spindle

.405" (10 mm)

 

Spindle nose thread

3/4-16 T.P.I.

 

Spindle taper

#1 Morse.

 

LEAD SCREW

.25"

 

Table size

4" x 12.00" (101.6 x 304.8 mm)

 

Hold down provision

3 "T" Slots

 

T-slot width

.5†12.70 mm

 

Actual weight no motors

36 lb. (16.3 kg)

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trailboss99

I'd proberly go with the Deep Grove mate. Reason being that a dremel bearing is not designed to take the side thrust loads generated in a mill application and you will get slop quickly if you load it up too much which is easy to do. The actual dremel will have some flex in the case as well. It's plastic after all. See the head on the DG? Solid as. It prob would not be a problem doing dials but belive me you will find plenty of other stuff to do once you own one. A propper spindle like on the DG also has a morse taper instead of a chuck so a far wider range of tooling is available. The axis travel is near double on the X and an inch more on Z as well. Much more powerfull motor as well. All in all a much beter machine that should last well. With patiance and pratice you could proberly make a case on that. Certainly Pam CGs and two or three of them would pay for it!

 

Col.

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JohnG

Thanks Col!

 

I am too busy right now, but when I get the house a bit further along I think I will do this...

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trailboss99

Yep, whay the hell not? You will be surprised what you end up makeing with that little jigger. I bet every hinge and lock plate in the house ends up covered in engraving for starters. Not to mention a brass name plate for the front door (with V10 lume fill of cause). You can also use it to make those sandwich style plastic name plates/labels you see on switches, controls and used as name badges. You know, one colour on the outside another in the middle. Engrave 'em and the middle one picks out the letters/symbols.

 

I bet you end up with a small lathe soon after as well. The bug will bite.

 

Col.

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JoeyB
You can also use it to make those sandwich style plastic name plates/labels you see on switches, controls and used as name badges. You know, one colour on the outside another in the middle. Engrave 'em and the middle one picks out the letters/symbols.

 

I've wondered if you can make a bezel insert for the older Rolex GMT from that sandwich style plastic to resemble the ceramic insert.

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trailboss99

Hmm, maybe but I think the insert is a compound curve which would cruel the idea unfortunatly.

 

Col.

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