Del 4,514 Posted January 11, 2020 DECISION:- UPDATE:- I tried on the Breitling today in an AD and while I thought it was a superb watch I didn’t feel the “wow factor”. However, I also tried on this TAG Heuer Monaco 1969 re-issue “Steve McQueen” and, I have to say, I liked it a lot, more than I expected...! Which one would you buy and why? Genuine, same price, no other options to be considered. Both have in-house movements. Panerai is hand wound, Breitling is automatic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foxindebox 472 Posted January 11, 2020 Personally, I’d go for the Breitling. I love a Milanese 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simey83 2,063 Posted January 11, 2020 Of those two, it would be the Panerai for me Not fussed on that Breitling model. But I’m sure you’d be very happy with either!!Simey 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tribefan 6,768 Posted January 11, 2020 Panerai in a heartbeat. Just got a 609 rep and love that watch. Fits perfect looks fantastic. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jibuti 958 Posted January 11, 2020 PAM, od course.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n18lld 675 Posted January 11, 2020 I’m taking it your about to splash out again? Pam all day long 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GingerApple 7,304 Posted January 11, 2020 Surely it's nothing more than personal taste (Breitling out of those two for me)? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Del 4,514 Posted January 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, Foxindebox said: Personally, I’d go for the Breitling. I love a Milanese I do like the mesh bracelet on this model. Had one on my SOH reps years ago and it was amazing. However, I need to really like the watch too! Thanks! 9 minutes ago, simey83 said: Of those two, it would be the Panerai for me Not fussed on that Breitling model. But I’m sure you’d be very happy with either!! Simey Thanks! I like them both. The SOH has always been a favourite of mine and this new version with a ceramic bezel insert at 44mm really appeals to me. But then, I really like the Panerai too, and I've always liked Panerai since the first day I saw them - on RWG! 5 minutes ago, tribefan said: Panerai in a heartbeat. Just got a 609 rep and love that watch. Fits perfect looks fantastic. Thanks! The 609 is almost identical of course, but with the 8 days P.5000 movement - the gen is a bit pricier than the PAM 754 above. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GingerApple 7,304 Posted January 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, n18lld said: I’m taking it your about to splash out again? Pam all day long And your called me rich for having a cleaner! This guy's minted! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Del 4,514 Posted January 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jibuti said: PAM, od course.... Thanks! 4 minutes ago, n18lld said: I’m taking it your about to splash out again? Pam all day long It's my birthday next month! Thanks! 1 minute ago, TheGingerFerret said: Surely it's nothing more than personal taste (Breitling out of those two for me)? Indeed, but I was interested in opinions! Thanks! 1 minute ago, TheGingerFerret said: And your called me rich for having a cleaner! This guy's minted! I don't have a cleaner! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FudgyDocker 3,509 Posted January 11, 2020 Go for the PAM. Have something different in your collection. I'd have the PAM over the Breitling (assuming that I already had a Gen yellow Sea Wolf of course!) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BM284 1,522 Posted January 11, 2020 I’d go for the Pam in a heartbeat! Just my 10pence worth of opinion 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Del 4,514 Posted January 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, FudgyDocker said: Go for the PAM. Have something different in your collection. I'd have the PAM over the Breitling (assuming that I already had a Gen yellow Sea Wolf of course!) Thanks! I'm leaning that way actually, for that exact reason! Just now, BM284 said: I’d go for the Pam in a heartbeat! Just my 10pence worth of opinion Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike R 1,336 Posted January 11, 2020 Although both are very nice watches, I would go for the Breitling Especially if we are talking genuine. Only know this because as I look at my watches I know I have a genuine Superocean. but also a rep Pam to round out the collection I don’t have any statistics but I think in the US more often the Breitling would be the choice. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Del 4,514 Posted January 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mike R said: Although both are very nice watches, I would go for the Breitling Especially if we are talking genuine. Only know this because as I look at my watches I know I have a genuine Superocean. but also a rep Pam to round out the collection I don’t have any statistics but I think in the US more often the Breitling would be the choice. Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deju 1,889 Posted January 11, 2020 Breitling, the biggest let down was buying my Panerai, the Reps are just too good. It’s not like a Rolex where the gen has that gen feel. The Panerai reps feel the exact same, no magic here at all. The breitlings a beast, the bracelets a beast. I just think that’s the solid choice. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Realism 72 Posted January 11, 2020 I'd look at it at a few angles... 1.) Brand Equity: Breitling had been on a downhill ride until Georges Kern's takeover as CEO with the CVC capital buyout. While the recovery has been slow, Kern is the guy that made IWC what it is today. Panerai has been on a rough downhill patch ever since their unlimited limited editions tire even their most ardent supporters... Richemont's group solution.... Make Roger Dubuis ex CEO into the new PAM CEO. I'm afraid the brand is in the gutters for a forseable future. 2.) Future collectibility. I will put a little more weight on the SOH II heritage being a little bit more "unique" than the Radiomir... As an owner of a PAM 3xx (you can PM me to know which one I have), the constant lego blocks mixing and matching that goes on at PAM drives every Ristis mad... At the end of the day... Most PAM models look alike... Most just arent special... Even the Bronzo is suffering from the same sickness. 3.) Last but not least, PAM reps are so good that you could try it out by getting a rep to try it out first...I didnt get to try it out that way then as my PAM model was not perfectly repped then. Hope it helps. Just few cents after taking a dunking in the old world of PAM and Ristis 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Del 4,514 Posted January 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, deju said: Breitling, the biggest let down was buying my Panerai, the Reps are just too good. It’s not like a Rolex where the gen has that gen feel. The Panerai reps feel the exact same, no magic here at all. The breitlings a beast, the bracelets a beast. I just think that’s the solid choice. Thanks! Yes, you make good points, some of which I've been deliberating already. 10 minutes ago, Realism said: I'd look at it at a few angles... 1.) Brand Equity: Breitling had been on a downhill ride until Georges Kern's takeover as CEO with the CVC capital buyout. While the recovery has been slow, Kern is the guy that made IWC what it is today. Panerai has been on a rough downhill patch ever since their unlimited limited editions tire even their most ardent supporters... Richemont's group solution.... Make Roger Dubuis ex CEO into the new PAM CEO. I'm afraid the brand is in the gutters for a forseable future. 2.) Future collectibility. I will put a little more weight on the SOH II heritage being a little bit more "unique" than the Radiomir... As an owner of a PAM 3xx (you can PM me to know which one I have), the constant lego blocks mixing and matching that goes on at PAM drives every Ristis mad... At the end of the day... Most PAM models look alike... Most just arent special... Even the Bronzo is suffering from the same sickness. 3.) Last but not least, PAM reps are so good that you could try it out by getting a rep to try it out first...I didnt get to try it out that way then as my PAM model was not perfectly repped then. Hope it helps. Just few cents after taking a dunking in the old world of PAM and Ristis Thanks for this comprehensive response! This is all great food for thought, absolutely, but sometimes it's nice just to buy a watch you like rather than look into things too much. I don't think either model is going to be a particularly great investment with strong resale values, and both companies are not flying high as you mentioned. So, perhaps, as long as I can get my chosen watch at a good price and expect to enjoy wearing it then that might be the most important consideration... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deju 1,889 Posted January 11, 2020 For background have you had either watches in replica form? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BravoDelta 22,624 Posted January 11, 2020 ✔ One vote for the black Breitling Superocean on the mesh bracelet for me. Love that look. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Del 4,514 Posted January 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, deju said: For background have you had either watches in replica form? I've had both black and blue SOHv2 reps, on OR rubber and gen mesh. I've also had reps PAM 380 and PAM 292 Radiomirs too! Breitling was probably my first big thing but Panerai soon took over. Both watches have nostalgic attributes for me! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Del 4,514 Posted January 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, BravoDelta said: ✔ One vote for the black Breitling Superocean on the mesh bracelet for me. Love that look. Thanks! It does look great! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FoxWilde 155 Posted January 11, 2020 Both superb watches. Panerai for me, personally. Not yet attached to the SuperOcean dial. A personal preference, but no wrong choices here. happy shopping! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deju 1,889 Posted January 11, 2020 19 minutes ago, Del said: I've had both black and blue SOHv2 reps, on OR rubber and gen mesh. I've also had reps PAM 380 and PAM 292 Radiomirs too! Breitling was probably my first big thing but Panerai soon took over. Both watches have nostalgic attributes for me! Which one do you prefer? I mean they are both on the table which would you grab to wear. It be ace if the AD had both and just sat them in front of you, you’d automatically pick up the one haha 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Callumz 44 Posted January 11, 2020 The Breitling for me personally - love the Milanese bracelet! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
