prestigewatchco 2 Posted July 11, 2009 Sweet, Citizen Reps... are you going to start offering them... LOL No because to earn any money from them you have to sell them as GEN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alphakazi 0 Posted July 11, 2009 good point Robert and yes, I was aware I believe ebays rating system works - this particular dealer has nearly 87000 transactions and a 99.6% positive feedback (impressive by any measure) - impossible if they are selling Seiko reps I won't touch anything on ebay without a high volume near perfect feedback and even then I'll read the remarks about any bad transactions - you get a near perfect idea of what to expect this particular dealers negative feedback for the last year only mentions they didn't get any watch and got a refund - they should try a round with TTK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phaedo 0 Posted July 11, 2009 (edited) But then how many people are going to know if the Seiko or citizen rep is a rep when they are buying what they assume to be a gen? Edited July 11, 2009 by phaedo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phaedo 0 Posted July 11, 2009 Wouldn't mind a sterile big pilot watch with the same specs as the 5002 or 5004, with a working power reserve and date function. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alphakazi 0 Posted July 11, 2009 But then how many people are going to know if the Seiko or citizen rep is a rep when they are buying what they assume to be a gen? after that many transactions, you know many of them are from watch buffs like us - sooner or later a fake is spotted from either the movement or workmanship the flybynight dealers always have low transactions and eventually get ejected from ebay - even a few hundred is nothing really - a few hundred people can all be fooled but the chances of 10's of thousands over a long period - I have no problem betting $150 bucks on that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prestigewatchco 2 Posted July 11, 2009 But then how many people are going to know if the Seiko or citizen rep is a rep when they are buying what they assume to be a gen? after that many transactions, you know many of them are from watch buffs like us - sooner or later a fake is spotted from either the movement or workmanship the flybynight dealers always have low transactions and eventually get ejected from ebay - even a few hundred is nothing really - a few hundred people can all be fooled but the chances of 10's of thousands over a long period - I have no problem betting $150 bucks on that These are not your normal reps these are the buisness. They have been being sold as parallel imports for 20 years even sold at Duty free shops in places like Turkey etc All the ones you see with big discount off retail will not have been bought directly from Seiko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phaedo 0 Posted July 11, 2009 But then how many people are going to know if the Seiko or citizen rep is a rep when they are buying what they assume to be a gen? after that many transactions, you know many of them are from watch buffs like us - sooner or later a fake is spotted from either the movement or workmanship the flybynight dealers always have low transactions and eventually get ejected from ebay - even a few hundred is nothing really - a few hundred people can all be fooled but the chances of 10's of thousands over a long period - I have no problem betting $150 bucks on that These are not your normal reps these are the buisness. They have been being sold as parallel imports for 20 years even sold at Duty free shops in places like Turkey etc All the ones you see with big discount off retail will not have been bought directly from Seiko Fair enough, just thought that if reps of them being sold as gen were so prolific it might be the case in a lot of places. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alphakazi 0 Posted July 11, 2009 But then how many people are going to know if the Seiko or citizen rep is a rep when they are buying what they assume to be a gen? after that many transactions, you know many of them are from watch buffs like us - sooner or later a fake is spotted from either the movement or workmanship the flybynight dealers always have low transactions and eventually get ejected from ebay - even a few hundred is nothing really - a few hundred people can all be fooled but the chances of 10's of thousands over a long period - I have no problem betting $150 bucks on that These are not your normal reps these are the buisness. They have been being sold as parallel imports for 20 years even sold at Duty free shops in places like Turkey etc All the ones you see with big discount off retail will not have been bought directly from Seiko that makes perfect sense - in fact that explains a lot I suppose they are basically OEM and not replicated parts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KinCaidk 0 Posted July 11, 2009 Thanks to a timely reminder from John, I just picked this up at a bargain price via eBay: Can't wait to get it! That is the same pic that Getat watches has for that watch: http://www.siswatch727.com/showroom/model/...07250018392.jpg Who was the ebay seller Dude you spilled the beans, don't tell anyone else outside the forum or all those johnny-come-latelies are going to bid up the Getatwatches on the bay! Yes, it is Getatwatch. They sell case sets, hands, dials, etc... all the same stuff, same pics, as Getatwatch.... but shhhhhhhh, that info just for us! did I miss something? Who is the seller Greg? PM me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greg_r 81 Posted July 11, 2009 Well I think the quality and value of these will take some beating at $99 http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp329/t.../60RISPEPSI.jpg http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp329/t...CCRIGHTHAND.jpg http://i424.photobucket.com/albums/pp329/t...VERLEFTHAND.jpg Nice! I'm sure they'll sell like crazy, Robert Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnG 41 Posted July 11, 2009 did I miss something? Who is the seller Greg? PM me If you want info on homages, you ask ME. GOT IT? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greg_r 81 Posted July 11, 2009 Well done Greg, I admire your will of steel , I would have crumbled much sooner...nice looking watch. Let me have first refusal on that clone 28,800 B+R of your's that I like, if you decide to let it go that is, just pm me... lol deal, but if I sell one of the B&Rs it's far more likely to be the BR01. Sorry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AustinTech 0 Posted July 11, 2009 A nice sterile Portugeuse in quartz would be cool I'd be in for one of those. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnG 41 Posted July 12, 2009 Okay, here are the prices from Jackson Tse's stuff - at least this will give us an idea: Hi we do not have sapphire glass for 47mm 1950s watch. here the catalogue www.jacksontse.com Here the price summary for reference with shipping from Hongkong for MM logo or Sterile face 44mm,45mm auto steel US$65 up (eg. MM01,02,03,04,45,46,114) *44mm automatic can be upgraded 1) to titanium US$86, 2)to titanium +sapphire US$110 44mm Titanium automatic US$80-90 (eg. MM112,113) 44mm, 45mm handwind steel US$68 up (MM08.09.12,20,34,85,91,93,94,105,120,121) 44mm 45mm PVD handwind US$76 up (MM53,54,85,86,95,106,118) 44mm titanium Handwind US$90 up (MM40,51,55,97, 107) (44mm handwind can be upgraded at extra US$25, swan neck clone movement extra US$10) 44mm dome 1950s mini handwind US$80 (MM110,111,115) 44mm dome mini 1950s PVD US$85 (MM122) 47mm 1950 steel US$80 (MM13) 47mm 1950 PVD US$86 (mm71) 44mm CHrono (MM37-39) US$190 All Parnis watches (HW13-15, HW25-27) ALL US$70 We have sterile Luminor style 44mm too (without MM logo lik MM105-108, MM93-99) Payment via paypal Feel free to write me for price cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greg_r 81 Posted July 12, 2009 Thanks, John - that indeed gives us a good idea. I'm looking forward to seeing what Robert comes up with at sterilewatches.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnG 41 Posted July 12, 2009 Won this today - it was a scheduled snipe, I was in Oviedo all day, got home, found I had won this, very happy with this for $47 bucks! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=200360478207 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alphakazi 0 Posted July 13, 2009 good deal - I take it you'll remove the Parnis and give it a Johnny Lube? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alphakazi 0 Posted July 13, 2009 this one is from a local seller - which is kinda nice - no shipping and I can go play with the trinket before paying but.... I know 2 things about PAMS.... Jack and of course Shit - so a little advise would be appreciated http://mississauga.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sel...QAdIdZ138873653 I can get it for about $100 US or less if I haggle - she already dropped it without me even asking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AustinTech 0 Posted July 13, 2009 Those PARNIS watches have a very good reputation on WUS. I've got one coming so I can check out the quality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
houndoggie 58 Posted July 13, 2009 this one is from a local seller - which is kinda nice - no shipping and I can go play with the trinket before paying but.... I know 2 things about PAMS.... Jack and of course Shit - so a little advise would be appreciated http://mississauga.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sel...QAdIdZ138873653 I can get it for about $100 US or less if I haggle - she already dropped it without me even asking your target should be about $50 on it.. Of course, the movement is completely wrong (Gen has a JLC based movement called the OP XIV), and it is a very low end rep unitas movement. No swan neck, with stuck on stickers instead of true engraving. I am guessing this is a rep of the PAM 190 Radiomir 8 Days. So this (crappy) rep lacks the L swiss made L, hands should be gold, case is not the correct shape... google PAM 190 images. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alphakazi 0 Posted July 13, 2009 this one is from a local seller - which is kinda nice - no shipping and I can go play with the trinket before paying but.... I know 2 things about PAMS.... Jack and of course Shit - so a little advise would be appreciated http://mississauga.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sel...QAdIdZ138873653 I can get it for about $100 US or less if I haggle - she already dropped it without me even asking your target should be about $50 on it.. Of course, the movement is completely wrong (Gen has a JLC based movement called the OP XIV), and it is a very low end rep unitas movement. No swan neck, with stuck on stickers instead of true engraving. I am guessing this is a rep of the PAM 190 Radiomir 8 Days. So this (crappy) rep lacks the L swiss made L, hands should be gold, case is not the correct shape... google PAM 190 images. thanks for the heads up HD - I'll pass on it - I don't want my 1st PAM to be total crap - a little crappy is ok Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AustinTech 0 Posted July 13, 2009 anyone ever thought, "man, I wish they made a green version of the PO Chrono..." http://cgi.ebay.com/HERC-Automatic-Mens-Sp...%3A2%7C294%3A50 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alphakazi 0 Posted July 13, 2009 anyone ever thought, "man, I wish they made a green version of the PO Chrono..." http://cgi.ebay.com/HERC-Automatic-Mens-Sp...%3A2%7C294%3A50 damn that green looks sweet ( not that strap ) no chrono but the sub dials are suppose to work - it's interesting anyhow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P_Diddy 0 Posted July 14, 2009 where on the bay, does getawatch advertise? Thanks to a timely reminder from John, I just picked this up at a bargain price via eBay: Can't wait to get it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
