Member X 91 Posted October 13, 2011 Typical - I've made a decision then someone presents me with another option... :dingleberry-nemesis: http://www.yourtrustytime.com/index.php?ma...roducts_id=8517 PN112NVLE - PAM112 M series NV SS/LE Black Unitas 6497$233.00 Noob Factory 112 M Series ..Made with a Genuine as Sample... Original C3 Super Luminova on Dial .. Swiss Quality Colourless AR Coating (Best Quality used on Reps to Date) ...No Mods Needed.. Platinum Plating on Movement Bridges 6497, 21600bph.... All Parts Directly interchangeable with the Genuine... ** Very Limited Initial Quantity!!! Immediate Delivery! MOVEMENT: Asian 6497 Manual Handwind Movement, Platinum Plated Cortes de Geneve Decoration on Bridges, High Beat 21600bph CASE DIAMETER: 44mm THICKNESS: 15mm DIAL COLOR: Black Sandwich Dial Numeral/Stick Hour Markers **Original C3 Super Luminova Applied on Markers and Needles CASE MATERIAL: Solid Polished 316F Stainless Steel 1 : 1 Case, Same Tone and Brightness as the Genuine, Notch for Bezel Prying at 5.00 BRACELET: Premium Leather Strap (Black and Brown, Best Calf Leather Made in rep History) with Pre V Polished Stainless Steel Buckle, No Recess Central Pinnion, Polished Head flush lug Screws FRONT GLASS: Sapphire Crystal Colourless AR Coated as per the Genuine. Done by Vendor who does for Swiss Genuine Brands BACK GLASS: Solid Caseback with Detail Engraving ** Individual M Series Serial MXXXX/2000 nos and Matching Individual PB nos, Every Serial number is individual Engraved with Individual Scan Film... Not by Running Computer Program CLASP TYPE: Pre V Buckle OTHER REMARKS: Water Resistant Polished Head flushed Lug Screws So now I'm in a quandry... Referencing the Gen/H/Noob 111M teardown thread on RWI, H-factory looks great (I love my 177M despite 'incorrect' construction to gen) but Noob 112M would be more accurate to gen construction, with deeper dial sandwich effect and more accurate lume colour (assuming same construction as 111M) as well as correct 21.6kbph movement... So... H or Noob?? I am so indecisive lol I am not too fussed about gen construction, I won't be selling it as gen or taking it apart! but Noob movement + sandwich dial improvements are a big plus... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g.man 0 Posted October 13, 2011 I'm a sucker for a good sandwich myself. blt g.man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g.man 0 Posted October 13, 2011 Hmmmm, the picture of the movement in that link of yours looks identical to the movement in my new pam176...which being an H-Factory, I was under the impression has the low-beat movement. Now I'm the first to admit I wouldn't know what physical differences to look for if any, but perhaps one of our more learned friends could voice an opinion. Also, the watch doesn't have a second hand anyway, so does it really matter if you have a low or high beat movement? regards g.man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vasya 0 Posted October 14, 2011 I have one H and one noob Pam111. IMO sandwich dial in noob is much better/deeper. In contrary to what descriptions say, AR looks less blueish in H. Another noticeable difference in favor of H is the gap between CG and the lever. Narrow in H and much wider in noob. But for me a better sandwich is deal breaker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
da12 0 Posted October 14, 2011 All this sandwich talk is making me hungry... Now, I have to go get a sandwich :-p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ollifl 0 Posted October 14, 2011 I think I just ate somebody's dog or cat, wife ordered Chinese takeout and I've never had chewy "chicken" like that :puke: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gB. 0 Posted October 14, 2011 Buy the H factory one and source a noob factory dial from Mary and swap it out. Best of both worlds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vasya 0 Posted October 14, 2011 I think I just ate somebody's dog or cat, wife ordered Chinese takeout and I've never had chewy "chicken" like that :puke: In Florida. I think you ate a gator! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
da12 0 Posted October 14, 2011 I think I just ate somebody's dog or cat, wife ordered Chinese takeout and I've never had chewy "chicken" like that :puke: In Florida. I think you ate a gator! In mother Russia...you might end up eating a horse or a donkey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
houndoggie 58 Posted October 14, 2011 I sold my h factory 112 to upgrade to the noob 112m. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gB. 0 Posted October 14, 2011 I sold my h factory 112 to upgrade to the noob 112m. Upgrade whore... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
houndoggie 58 Posted October 14, 2011 I sold my h factory 112 to upgrade to the noob 112m. Upgrade whore... :AT: Yup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Member X 91 Posted October 14, 2011 Pics and a review/comparson are needed!! Do you have an e.t.a. from your dealer yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Del 4,522 Posted October 14, 2011 I sold my h factory 112 to upgrade to the noob 112m. I think you got your answer Member X! Don't delay any further - just buy it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g.man 0 Posted October 14, 2011 Pics and a review/comparson are needed!! Do you have an e.t.a. from your dealer yet? I think you'll actually find they're both Asian movements. g.man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Member X 91 Posted October 14, 2011 Pics and a review/comparson are needed!! Do you have an e.t.a. from your dealer yet? I think you'll actually find they're both Asian movements. g.man e.t.a. = estimated time of arrival Noob!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g.man 0 Posted October 14, 2011 That's the great thing about this place. You learn something new every day! g.man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gtwc 1 Posted October 14, 2011 Thread crapping............... which TD does a Noobfactory 177M? I need to replace my H-factory 177L (or get Wiz to work some magic on it) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cynikal.Mindset 1 Posted October 14, 2011 just bought a noob 111m remember the h-factory versions have the low-beat movements as well and for the 30-40bux difference for better almost everything it was worth it for me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
