10:10 Watch Repair 1 Posted November 14, 2009 first test Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luthier 1 Posted November 14, 2009 Shoot the whole machine, please. Great thing! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sconehead 5 Posted November 14, 2009 Shoot the whole machine, please.Great thing! +1, Is it a proper engineers pantograph? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10:10 Watch Repair 1 Posted November 14, 2009 Shoot the whole machine, please.Great thing! +1, Is it a proper engineers pantograph? As far as I know, no such thing. I think you mean engraver's pantograph (which it is) as opposed to a drafting pantograph. A pantograph is a copying machine, originally made to make copies of drawings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sconehead 5 Posted November 14, 2009 Shoot the whole machine, please.Great thing! +1, Is it a proper engineers pantograph? As far as I know, no such thing. I think you mean engraver's pantograph (which it is) as opposed to a drafting pantograph. A pantograph is a copying machine, originally made to make copies of drawings. Like this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10:10 Watch Repair 1 Posted November 14, 2009 Shoot the whole machine, please.Great thing! +1, Is it a proper engineers pantograph? As far as I know, no such thing. I think you mean engraver's pantograph (which it is) as opposed to a drafting pantograph. A pantograph is a copying machine, originally made to make copies of drawings. Like this? That's an engraver's pantograph. That guy's not an engineer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10:10 Watch Repair 1 Posted November 14, 2009 Here's what my machine looks like, stolen from the brochure: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sconehead 5 Posted November 14, 2009 Sorry cls wrong pic, here's the link, http://www.maneklalexports.com/English/McT...ntograph.htm#3D There are more out there. The reason I'm asking if it's an 'Engineers' pantograph is that my Dad an engineer for 52 years, now retired, reckoned you could use a pantograph to replicate a pam sandwhich dial exactly using one, no problem at all...peace... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10:10 Watch Repair 1 Posted November 14, 2009 Sorry cls wrong pic, here's the link, http://www.maneklalexports.com/English/McT...ntograph.htm#3DThere are more out there. The reason I'm asking if it's an 'Engineers' pantograph is that my Dad an engineer for 52 years, now retired, reckoned you could use a pantograph to replicate a pam sandwhich dial exactly using one, no problem at all...peace... Those are all engraving pantographs. I think you may have misunderstood your dad, as far as I know, the only use an engineer would have for a pantograph would be for drafting. It's possible the original dials were cut and then copied on a pantograph. It would need a motor, mine does not. There's really not much point anymore trying to do dials with a pantograph. First, you would need a perfect dial to copy, second, if you had a perfect dial, just scan it and CNC it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sconehead 5 Posted November 14, 2009 Ah yes but in the early days of his career cnc's weren't invented... He actually told me the secret to using one was to make a conical attatchment to run against the die and concentrate on the die, not the material being machined. Apparently he used this method for making gyroscopes for tank self-levelling gun systems... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mad dawg 0 Posted November 15, 2009 I have alway wondered how the engraving is done, now I know and now I want to have a go (as if I had not enough to do already). BTW: Engineer is a widely misused title, the only tool a proper engineer will have is a calculator/PC. An engineer develops the design, the drafter draws what the engineer designed and the technician executes the drawings (i.e. builds it). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10:10 Watch Repair 1 Posted November 15, 2009 I have alway wondered how the engraving is done, now I know and now I want to have a go (as if I had not enough to do already). BTW: Engineer is a widely misused title, the only tool a proper engineer will have is a calculator/PC. An engineer develops the design, the drafter draws what the engineer designed and the technician executes the drawings (i.e. builds it). And what about one who pilots trains? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prestigewatchco 2 Posted November 15, 2009 A simple way to get templates made is to use a picture and get a company that makes plates for hot foil press, to make them in reverse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greg_r 81 Posted November 15, 2009 I have alway wondered how the engraving is done, now I know and now I want to have a go (as if I had not enough to do already). BTW: Engineer is a widely misused title, the only tool a proper engineer will have is a calculator/PC. An engineer develops the design, the drafter draws what the engineer designed and the technician executes the drawings (i.e. builds it). And what about one who pilots trains? We call those train drivers over here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10:10 Watch Repair 1 Posted November 15, 2009 I have alway wondered how the engraving is done, now I know and now I want to have a go (as if I had not enough to do already). BTW: Engineer is a widely misused title, the only tool a proper engineer will have is a calculator/PC. An engineer develops the design, the drafter draws what the engineer designed and the technician executes the drawings (i.e. builds it). And what about one who pilots trains? We call those train drivers over here Well I hope you give them calculators. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trailboss99 994 Posted November 15, 2009 And what about one who pilots trains? And the one who works on aircraft, a Licenced Avation Mechanical Engineer or LAME for short? Engineer covers a lot more than a bloke with a caculator! Mechanical engineers get their hands dirty, electronic engineers do practical work with circuts etc. Col. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnG 41 Posted November 15, 2009 MORE pics please!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trailboss99 994 Posted November 15, 2009 MORE pics please!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think John likes your new toy! Col. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10:10 Watch Repair 1 Posted November 15, 2009 MORE pics please!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I need more type. I only have the Hermes master set right now, which is good for between lug engraving, but I need to make a case holding clamp to start engraving between lugs. BTW, for templates, plastic from a sign cutter works well. I have a CNC 3D mill on the way, so stay tuned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AustinTech 0 Posted November 15, 2009 Pantograph? Isn't that one of those circles with the devil drawn inside? 66666666 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingle 57 Posted November 15, 2009 Pantograph? Isn't that one of those circles with the devil drawn inside? 66666666 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AustinTech 0 Posted November 15, 2009 I could watch that little Irish fella dance all day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10:10 Watch Repair 1 Posted November 15, 2009 Pantograph? Isn't that one of those circles with the devil drawn inside? 66666666 Depends on how you use it I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
