ALE7575 24 Posted December 9, 2012 Detected by amperes here in RWG WARNING !!!!!!! BE CAREFUL ACCEPTING QC PICS OF PAM 111 V3 FROM NOOB FACTORY FOR GENERAL INFORMATION There are some watches PAM 111 V3 from Noob with a dial issue in font of the "2" This is the dial "2" issue you must detect in QC pics: The "2" at RIGHT is COMPLETELY WRONG The flaw is serious and very noticeable We have already detected about five or six watches here and in RWI ALE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Realism 72 Posted December 9, 2012 I don't get this "The flaw is serious and very noticeable"... I understand that it is a production and cosmetic flaw... but no way in heck that it is noticeable by any Tom, Dick and Harry who just glances off your wrist. Secondly, how the heck is this flaw serious, when it doesn't affect the structural integrity of the watch itself A.K.A it will continue to work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10:10 Watch Repair 1 Posted December 9, 2012 so noticeable that Panerai doesn't even notice when they make their watches wrong: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Realism 72 Posted December 9, 2012 Chris... your dial must be a rep Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g.man 0 Posted December 9, 2012 THIS IS CLEARLY THE END OF DAYS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luthier 1 Posted December 9, 2012 We've got a teacher... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James. 4 Posted December 9, 2012 The v3 Noob 111 is meant to be cosmetically one of the closest reps to the gen you can get. Pity about these new batches of incorrect dials. If I was paying$350+ for one of these i'd want to be sure it's not one of the poor replications. I think a few "freshies" might get ants in their pants if they just bought one :lmao: Oh, and for the record, if it were anyone else bringing this up flame on, but Ale is the empirical PAM expert and obviously knows his shit. I'd liken it to people getting shitty over a crappy Rolex pearl... not noticable to the regular pleb but blatant to the few. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay123 0 Posted December 9, 2012 ^this is exactly why i raised it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALE7575 24 Posted December 9, 2012 I don't get this "The flaw is serious and very noticeable"... I understand that it is a production and cosmetic flaw... but no way in heck that it is noticeable by any Tom, Dick and Harry who just glances off your wrist. Secondly, how the heck is this flaw serious, when it doesn't affect the structural integrity of the watch itself A.K.A it will continue to work. Not important as a watch Very important as a replica, bearing in mind the quality of the current replicas Just a point of view Anyway: Up to you ALE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Realism 72 Posted December 9, 2012 So i guess even OP got their dials wrong heh? And unless you're trying to be something you're not with these PAMs rep A.K.A a player or a douchebag... no one will even notice a little "2" on a dial... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALE7575 24 Posted December 9, 2012 so noticeable that Panerai doesn't even notice when they make their watches wrong: This is a sausage dial not Sandwich Even there are PAM Sandwich dials with this kind of font but they are old version not modern watches ALE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
houndoggie 58 Posted December 9, 2012 so noticeable that Panerai doesn't even notice when they make their watches wrong: Ok, this is my "expertise" area. Pam sausage dials are different than the sausage dials on the "2". For pamopiles, the 2 font is a big issue. It sticks out like a site thumb. For the creme de la creme ( ) PAM rep its a big disappointment. For most rep collectors it may seem like no big deal, but it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10:10 Watch Repair 1 Posted December 9, 2012 This is a sausage dial not Sandwich Even there are PAM Sandwich dials with this kind of font but they are old version not modern watches ALE I think I'm aware of that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10:10 Watch Repair 1 Posted December 9, 2012 Ok, this is my "expertise" area. Pam sausage dials are different than the sausage dials on the "2". For pamopiles, the 2 font is a big issue. It sticks out like a site thumb. For the creme de la creme ( ) PAM rep its a big disappointment. For most rep collectors it may seem like no big deal, but it is. I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
houndoggie 58 Posted December 9, 2012 Ok, this is my "expertise" area. Pam sausage dials are different than the sausage dials on the "2". For pamopiles, the 2 font is a big issue. It sticks out like a site thumb. For the creme de la creme ( ) PAM rep its a big disappointment. For most rep collectors it may seem like no big deal, but it is. I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but: That's an old 111h rep. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhounsell 0 Posted December 9, 2012 Some may find this serious others may not but I think it is important to share knowledge like this.....thanks for the post ALE! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffw69 0 Posted December 9, 2012 Some may find this serious others may not but I think it is important to share knowledge like this.....thanks for the post ALE! Yes, thank you ALE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10:10 Watch Repair 1 Posted December 9, 2012 That's an old 111h rep. Thereabouts. The font changed with the rollerball CG. Really, I just have to mock the sky is falling WARNING!!!!! or I wouldn't be able to sleep at night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James. 4 Posted December 9, 2012 If it was me and I was paying reasonable dosh for a v3 111 I'd want the one which was advertised. The dial switch-up may not be a big issue for some but the dealers should be aware of it, the factories obviously know, and there should be a disclaimer. Like I said, I haven't bought one but if I had and got the bad batch dials, i'd be fkin pissed because it's not what was advertised and not what I paid for. It's like buying a AP v3 diver and finding out they've put the v2 inner bezel on it. Not a big deal for some but a huge error for others. Just my 2 cents. Oh and p.s. the "6" is also off... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Realism 72 Posted December 9, 2012 Really, I just have to mock the sky is falling WARNING!!!!! or I wouldn't be able to sleep at night. +2M...Especially when they are more things to worry about... like for example if it's going to even work when it reaches your hands Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Realism 72 Posted December 9, 2012 but the dealers should be aware of it, I would disagree with this statement... Unless you look for faults... with a glance... you can't even tell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
houndoggie 58 Posted December 9, 2012 That's an old 111h rep. Thereabouts. The font changed with the rollerball CG. Really, I just have to mock the sky is falling WARNING!!!!! or I wouldn't be able to sleep at night. On the gen, the font changed when the 111 went from sausge to sandwich. On the reps, the wholesale change came with the h-factory 111. Circa 2009-2010, all the 111h reps had curvy 2 sandwich dials, except DSN and Little Hero (who made there own dials). At the time, LH was charging $1200 for his 111h rep ($250 for dial and hands). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
