Realism 72 Posted December 9, 2012 Moral of the story is, imo it cant be classed as a "super rep" with this dial IMO, look how easily it was spotted on the first page, thought "super reps" where meant to be more or less identical or so ive read on the rep forums,? What does my opinion count though? because you need to post these on TRF too? oohhh that's why you need a super rep http://www.rolexforu...ad.php?t=105455 http://www.rolexforu...ad.php?t=124429 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALE7575 24 Posted December 9, 2012 I'm very sorry for all that and it is very unpleasant for me and I think for many other members I WANTED JUST HELPING PEOPLE WHO WERE BUYING A V3 !!!!!!! And warning about a dial problem that doesn't occurs in all watches only in some of them !!! I know you don't need it. You have here a lot of member's knowledge. But some members here are a little discouraging about post opinions here. Two other forums are grateful for this kind of warnings and info. Please stop this unpleasant way That's enough for me ALE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cyril_Clunge 0 Posted December 9, 2012 Fucking calm down people. ALE posts a thread that will be of interest to some and not to others. Yes his posting style is a little exuberant but I think that has been more than covered in this thread. I agreed with HB's post because it summed up my feelings, if you don't like the thread, feel free to post saying so but does the same point need to be made over and over again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay123 0 Posted December 9, 2012 (edited) What have you got against me realism? Every post ive made you have replied with bitterness. Im not here for that, im here to learn. Dont get me wrong i like abit of banter but it seems your trying to grind my gears and its just not working. Im not 10 years of age Edited December 9, 2012 by Jay123 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT88 1 Posted December 9, 2012 analism. what a word. OP pointed out something that would affect people who has that belief. Others would just think it's.....err...analism. so chill guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dalboy 2 Posted December 9, 2012 @ Luthier, Realism and dalboy I'm super anal when I'm studying replicas but never when Im buying them. It is important to anlize the flaws in order to get better replicas in the future. And we have got it during last years by the analysis of some fans and the courage of some makers But you can consult several dealers I never (almost) reject a QC pics because I know very well that we are deañling with reps. And as said by Realism it is more important that they work. As you surely know I'm the PAM Section Moderator in RWI, and I have very good relationship with several dealers and they are cooperating with myself in RWI in the RWI Pam Consulting Team. Ask Angus, Mark, Marvellous, Wiz, goin .... they are very good friends of mine. Even Angus has answered my RWI thread giving thanks for the WARNING and saying he will contact Noob to get an explanation and to try solutions. Hiding things is not the correct way in this replica world But in this case the most important thing is that NOWADAYS THERE ARE CORRECT AND WRONG DIALS AT THE SAME TIME and it is not fair for people receiving the wrong ones. ALE I appreciate your comments , and understand that you have a knowledge in this subject that exceeds mine 10 times fold..maybe more... Given the amount of issues the exsist in the rep world, some people may be going way over the top with this.. Yes one strive's for the perfect rep, even going to great lenghts to source gen parts to improve the watch . There is a lot that can be learnt from this i agree. but most people agree that a rep dispite it's source will always be flawed...will we now have collectors reaching for their drawer's, watchbox's and what ever else checking the accuracy of the numerals, and finding them self's now unhappy with a watch that was once considered A1.. I am simply expressing that rep collectors seem to be far worse or anul than the gen one's..rather like a reformed smoker is worse than any smoker. Not in any way do i question your knowledge on this subject, i agree that it's way above mine..but come on..arn't we in fear of getting a lttle to carried away with all this. Dal... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cyril_Clunge 0 Posted December 9, 2012 ALE, with all my due respect, seriously... you spent 600 hours on PAM guide??? Is it such an important thing??? Get a life, mate!!! Most of us don't give flying fuck about slightly incorrect "2". You can start the poll about it, and you'll see. It's just a REPLICA!!! How dare you tell him to get a life. There are many here that don't give a fuck about a lot of what you have to say you know. If he wishes to spend his time in that way then good luck to him, there are some who appreciate it but even if there were none it wouldn't matter, he does it because he obviously enjoys it. You really need to wind your fucking neck in and learn some manners. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prancuzas 0 Posted December 9, 2012 replica or not, it's still a merchandice that the price/quality is set according to supply and demand and vice/versa. people pay 100usd extra in comparision to other hand-wound models (because of "perfect quality", best pam rep and etc). and now noob factory releases the batch with shitty dials, charge same money and some people on this board tells buyers to shut up and to live with this.. but we all are in a search for perfect rep, arent we? so thanks to the author for bringing this up. Sent from Calculator using CrashTalk6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Realism 72 Posted December 9, 2012 What have you got against me realism? Every post ive made you have replied with bitterness. Im not here for that, im here to learn. Dont get me wrong i like abit of banter but it seems your trying to grind my gears and its just not working. Im not 10 years of age i have nothing... I have threads from TRF showing reps as gens... nothing but that... ain't google a bitch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALE7575 24 Posted December 9, 2012 Moral of the story is, imo it cant be classed as a "super rep" with this dial IMO, look how easily it was spotted on the first page, thought "super reps" where meant to be more or less identical or so ive read on the rep forums,? What does my opinion count though? Be calm again! None of us detected this flaw before and there are wrong dials more a month ago !!! The flaws are noticeable but you need to be aware ot them. Now, with the flaw detected all people are seeing their watches and finding the issues. We are in a replica world and that can happen always. The PAM 111 V3 continues being a Super replica but we cannot avoid a flaw or a mistake in manufacture !! That can happen in all replicas we are dealing with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Realism 72 Posted December 9, 2012 Moral of the story is, imo it cant be classed as a "super rep" with this dial IMO, look how easily it was spotted on the first page, thought "super reps" where meant to be more or less identical or so ive read on the rep forums,? What does my opinion count though? Be calm again! None of us detected this flaw before and there are wrong dials more a month ago !!! The flaws are noticeable but you need to be aware ot them. Now, with the flaw detected all people are seeing their watches and finding the issues. We are in a replica world and that can happen always. The PAM 111 V3 continues being a Super replica but we cannot avoid a flaw or a mistake in manufacture !! That can happen in all replicas we are dealing with. Now we're talking sense here.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay123 0 Posted December 9, 2012 If you have nothing then back off, thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10:10 Watch Repair 1 Posted December 9, 2012 Dear friends Firstly: I WAS JUST TRYING TO HELP CURRENT AND FUTURE PAM 111 V3 BUYERS. This is the only forum with this kind of feed-back to this thread. ALE I respect the amount of work you put into this (although I think it misguided.) This forum is a bit different, it's more of a community that offers free opinions, rather than just people looking for 1:1 reps. Call it more mature, if you want. It is an impressive amount of information you have put together, and a nice reference. Over here though, just choose a little more subdued title. Half of what we do here is point out the ridiculousness of this obsessive behavior. The other half is dick jokes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12lurk 0 Posted December 9, 2012 While I am in the camp that doesn't think the dial issues are a big deal. I am glad there are people like ALE who keep an eye on these things and spend 600 hours on the guide. Reading the guide allowed me to quickly become informed and narrow my decision. So please get off his back, he is making this place better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Realism 72 Posted December 9, 2012 If you have nothing then back off, thanks I do whatever I like within limits... posts on TRF are public records... so if you posted a rep as a gen... is it my fault or your fault? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay123 0 Posted December 9, 2012 Like i said, if u have a problem, pm me. If not, let the thread carry on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abagnale 0 Posted December 9, 2012 guys this discussion is not about accepting minor flaws on a rep or not. the v3 was/is perfect, period. obviously someone at noob factory made a mistake. instead to discard the wrong items, they tried to spread them around, assuming nobody would notice it. most buyers considered their acquisition based on pics of perfect v3s and all the talk about being a superep. that's what they payed for. getting a watch with the wrong dial can be issue for some. others just don't care… afaik even the sausage dials use the same sandwich dial build. they probably just mixed up the top plates. no big deal imo. if they got balls at noob factory, they simply take the wrong items back and everybody is happy. thanks ale for your effort... cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Realism 72 Posted December 9, 2012 Like i said, if u have a problem, pm me. If not, let the thread carry on Why can't I highlight one of the more douchebaggery reason why people are being all "worried" about these minute details... oh yea... because somehow their brains told them to post their reps @ gens fora to make the rest of rep owners seem like fellow douchebags... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffw69 0 Posted December 9, 2012 This thread is like a huge traffic accident, you can't help but stare. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
onzenuub 307 Posted December 9, 2012 Finally some one posts about watches and see what happens. Tssssssssssssssssssk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALE7575 24 Posted December 9, 2012 ALE, with all my due respect, seriously... you spent 600 hours on PAM guide??? Is it such an important thing??? Get a life, mate!!! Most of us don't give flying fuck about slightly incorrect "2". You can start the poll about it, and you'll see. It's just a REPLICA!!! How dare you tell him to get a life. There are many here that don't give a fuck about a lot of what you have to say you know. If he wishes to spend his time in that way then good luck to him, there are some who appreciate it but even if there were none it wouldn't matter, he does it because he obviously enjoys it. You really need to wind your fucking neck in and learn some manners. Thanks CC This is the point. I have started the PAM GUIDE like a less ambitous project, but during the creation I was more and more adding information until get the current status. I need to uptate the Guide every day because the PAM reps are changing fast nowadays. But daily I recive a lot of mails, PM ans post from Noobs and even veterans being grateful reading the Guide, and saying they have save many time and money consulting it and that they have made their first purchase faster by the Guide, and they have got introduced in this rep world just reading it. This is very pleasant and encouraging, In some way "I have got a life" with the PAM Section in RWI and people give to me their recognition every day. People are content with my cooperation, RWI Staff likes my job, and I am happy in this way ALE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffw69 0 Posted December 9, 2012 Finally some one posts about watches and see what happens. Tssssssssssssssssssk. Oh sjut up! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Realism 72 Posted December 9, 2012 Finally some one posts about watches and see what happens. Tssssssssssssssssssk. You knew? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALE7575 24 Posted December 9, 2012 Moral of the story is, imo it cant be classed as a "super rep" with this dial IMO, look how easily it was spotted on the first page, thought "super reps" where meant to be more or less identical or so ive read on the rep forums,? What does my opinion count though? Be calm again! None of us detected this flaw before and there are wrong dials more a month ago !!! The flaws are noticeable but you need to be aware ot them. Now, with the flaw detected all people are seeing their watches and finding the issues. We are in a replica world and that can happen always. The PAM 111 V3 continues being a Super replica but we cannot avoid a flaw or a mistake in manufacture !! That can happen in all replicas we are dealing with. Now we're talking sense here.... Dear Realism This is a copy of the post that I have put some hours ago in RWI. You can consult it I was talking sense several hours ago You and other members have started a differnt unpleasant way But please leave this way, I think all is OK now and in a good way. PLEASE ALE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
