Fiddo 0 Posted December 9, 2012 ALE, with all my due respect, seriously... you spent 600 hours on PAM guide??? Is it such an important thing??? Get a life, mate!!! Most of us don't give flying fuck about slightly incorrect "2". You can start the poll about it, and you'll see. It's just a REPLICA!!! Not nice at all. It may not be your "passion". However, mutual respect goes a long way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Realism 72 Posted December 9, 2012 Moral of the story is, imo it cant be classed as a "super rep" with this dial IMO, look how easily it was spotted on the first page, thought "super reps" where meant to be more or less identical or so ive read on the rep forums,? What does my opinion count though? Be calm again! None of us detected this flaw before and there are wrong dials more a month ago !!! The flaws are noticeable but you need to be aware ot them. Now, with the flaw detected all people are seeing their watches and finding the issues. We are in a replica world and that can happen always. The PAM 111 V3 continues being a Super replica but we cannot avoid a flaw or a mistake in manufacture !! That can happen in all replicas we are dealing with. Now we're talking sense here.... Dear Realism This is a copy of the post that I have put some hours ago in RWI. You can consult it I was talking sense several hours ago You and other members have started a differnt unpleasant way But please leave this way, I think all is OK now and in a good way. PLEASE ALE Seriously ALE... if you expect roses and praises after the "chicken little" EOW claims... you got the wrong person here... take it as it is... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALE7575 24 Posted December 9, 2012 Dear friends Firstly: I WAS JUST TRYING TO HELP CURRENT AND FUTURE PAM 111 V3 BUYERS. This is the only forum with this kind of feed-back to this thread. ALE I respect the amount of work you put into this (although I think it misguided.) This forum is a bit different, it's more of a community that offers free opinions, rather than just people looking for 1:1 reps. Call it more mature, if you want. It is an impressive amount of information you have put together, and a nice reference. Over here though, just choose a little more subdued title. Half of what we do here is point out the ridiculousness of this obsessive behavior. The other half is dick jokes. OK understood Thanks 10:10 I appreciate your comments ALE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
projectologist 0 Posted December 9, 2012 Aren't some of you guys getting dizzy by now???? You've been going in circles for 9 pages now and nothing that hasn't been said a dozen times before is being said. Everyone has made their point several times now, so why do you keep repeating yourselves? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HWG 11 Posted December 9, 2012 Seriously ALE... if you expect roses and praises after the "chicken little" EOW claims... you got the wrong person here... take it as it is... Real, I like you. But, leave the thread. Stop Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALE7575 24 Posted December 9, 2012 (edited) While I am in the camp that doesn't think the dial issues are a big deal. I am glad there are people like ALE who keep an eye on these things and spend 600 hours on the guide. Reading the guide allowed me to quickly become informed and narrow my decision. So please get off his back, he is making this place better. Thanks friend Glad to be useful You are exaggerating (a little ... LOL) ALE Edited December 9, 2012 by ALE7575 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALE7575 24 Posted December 9, 2012 guys this discussion is not about accepting minor flaws on a rep or not. the v3 was/is perfect, period. obviously someone at noob factory made a mistake. instead to discard the wrong items, they tried to spread them around, assuming nobody would notice it. most buyers considered their acquisition based on pics of perfect v3s and all the talk about being a superep. that's what they payed for. getting a watch with the wrong dial can be issue for some. others just don't care… afaik even the sausage dials use the same sandwich dial build. they probably just mixed up the top plates. no big deal imo. if they got balls at noob factory, they simply take the wrong items back and everybody is happy. thanks ale for your effort... cheers Thanks amperes. Wise words yours But you started that !!! OMG !!! LOL Thanks again my friend We will keep in contact ALE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dalboy 2 Posted December 9, 2012 While I am in the camp that doesn't think the dial issues are a big deal. I am glad there are people like ALE who keep an eye on these things and spend 600 hours on the guide. Reading the guide allowed me to quickly become informed and narrow my decision. So please get off his back, he is making this place better. Thanks friend gald to be useful You are exaggerating (a little ... LOL) ALE Don't pay too much attention to that comment Ale.. Some people spend as much if not more time than that here ..is that not the same thing. Expert opinions such as yours help to provide balance and check here.... Dal....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALE7575 24 Posted December 9, 2012 Good post amperes I agree Thanks again Jay PM me if you need something ALE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALE7575 24 Posted December 9, 2012 replica or not, it's still a merchandice that the price/quality is set according to supply and demand and vice/versa. people pay 100usd extra in comparision to other hand-wound models (because of "perfect quality", best pam rep and etc). and now noob factory releases the batch with shitty dials, charge same money and some people on this board tells buyers to shut up and to live with this.. but we all are in a search for perfect rep, arent we? so thanks to the author for bringing this up. Sent from Calculator using CrashTalk6 Thanks Prancuzas ALE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALE7575 24 Posted December 9, 2012 This thread is like a huge traffic accident, you can't help but stare. LOL ALE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ks653 0 Posted December 9, 2012 ALE... I for one really appreciate your efforts... If I am going to shell out $275 for a rep which I think is a super rep, and it has a flaw as obvious as this, then I would be pissed... There are people on this forum who care about these things.. which is why for e.g. a SOH v2 is considered so much better than v1.5/v3 when the differences are minor... I feel that you have a life and you're doing what you like doing with it... Although I haven't read your guide yet, I will surely give it a glance before buying my next PAM ... Cheers! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALE7575 24 Posted December 9, 2012 ALE, with all my due respect, seriously... you spent 600 hours on PAM guide??? Is it such an important thing??? Get a life, mate!!! Most of us don't give flying fuck about slightly incorrect "2". You can start the poll about it, and you'll see. It's just a REPLICA!!! Not nice at all. It may not be your "passion". However, mutual respect goes a long way. Thanks Fiddo Of course, I agree ALE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALE7575 24 Posted December 9, 2012 ALE... I for one really appreciate your efforts... If I am going to shell out $275 for a rep which I think is a super rep, and it has a flaw as obvious as this, then I would be pissed... There are people on this forum who care about these things.. which is why for e.g. a SOH v2 is considered so much better than v1.5/v3 when the differences are minor... I feel that you have a life and you're doing what you like doing with it... Although I haven't read your guide yet, I will surely give it a glance before buying my next PAM ... Cheers! You will not be diappointed .... LOL ALE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALE7575 24 Posted December 9, 2012 (edited) OMG! My current record is 81.161 views and 1.255 replies in RWI: “Official Thread” HBB V6 Evolution – Compilation of data http://www.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/official-thread-hbb-v6-evolution-82678.html But this thread is going over that 2.275 views and almost 200 replies in less than 18 hours !! ALE Edited December 9, 2012 by ALE7575 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
watchman12345 0 Posted December 9, 2012 I think the point is that the Noob factory/dealers market this as a super-rep. Remember Angus's post comparing the Noob, H, and Gen versions? It went al the wasy to V3 because people were obsesed with getting the small details right. The V3 was indistinguishable from gen on the wrist. Now all of a suddon they put a dial that's a couple of years old on it and made a tell on the face. It's reasonable to point it out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Focal 0 Posted December 9, 2012 (edited) The problem is not that is has a flaw, the problem is that people expect something that they wont get i think. The v3 is praised allover the boards on how awesome and near perfect it is. I would be dissapointed too if i ordered one and i get another dial with the flawed 2. They would have never dared to use this dial when the v3 was new, but now they abuse its good reputation. Edited December 9, 2012 by Focal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spboudart 0 Posted December 9, 2012 Finally some one posts about watches and see what happens. Tssssssssssssssssssk. It's a shame to see what this forum is turning into. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
emmune 0 Posted December 9, 2012 so this was serious.. Very much so... because 0.0080532738% of the world population call tell the difference in a rep on a dial from 10 miles away Dude, you need to chill. For better or worse, there are people on this forum who are concerned about such flaws, and if you don't care, that's fine, but not everyone has to share your opinion. If this thread bothers you, don't read it. +1m ALE, with all my due respect, seriously... you spent 600 hours on PAM guide??? Is it such an important thing??? Get a life, mate!!! Most of us don't give flying fuck about slightly incorrect "2". You can start the poll about it, and you'll see. It's just a REPLICA!!! Fuck off. There are tons of people who have found the guide very useful and used it as a reference. You are just some old bitter troll that consistently posts opinionated shit while speaking matter-of-factly . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fana05 0 Posted December 9, 2012 (edited) the TD managed to pick another one for me, can you guys find any deviations from the v3 promises or is this one legit? https://dl.dropbox.c...89963/pam/1.JPG https://dl.dropbox.c...89963/pam/2.JPG https://dl.dropbox.c...89963/pam/3.JPG https://dl.dropbox.c...89963/pam/4.JPG https://dl.dropbox.c...89963/pam/5.JPG thanks.. Edited December 9, 2012 by fana05 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
houndoggie 58 Posted December 9, 2012 the TD managed to pick another one for me, can you guys find any deviations from the v3 promises or is this one legit? https://dl.dropbox.c...89963/pam/1.JPG https://dl.dropbox.c...89963/pam/2.JPG https://dl.dropbox.c...89963/pam/3.JPG https://dl.dropbox.c...89963/pam/4.JPG https://dl.dropbox.c...89963/pam/5.JPG thanks.. Take it and run...thank your dealer a million times over. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALE7575 24 Posted December 9, 2012 I think the point is that the Noob factory/dealers market this as a super-rep. Remember Angus's post comparing the Noob, H, and Gen versions? It went al the wasy to V3 because people were obsesed with getting the small details right. The V3 was indistinguishable from gen on the wrist. Now all of a suddon they put a dial that's a couple of years old on it and made a tell on the face. It's reasonable to point it out. Thanks I think so ALE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALE7575 24 Posted December 9, 2012 The problem is not that is has a flaw, the problem is that people expect something that they wont get i think. The v3 is praised allover the boards on how awesome and near perfect it is. I would be dissapointed too if i ordered one and i get another dial with the flawed 2. They would have never dared to use this dial when the v3 was new, but now they abuse its good reputation. I agree with you This is the point !! Thanks ALE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALE7575 24 Posted December 9, 2012 the TD managed to pick another one for me, can you guys find any deviations from the v3 promises or is this one legit? https://dl.dropbox.c...89963/pam/1.JPG https://dl.dropbox.c...89963/pam/2.JPG https://dl.dropbox.c...89963/pam/3.JPG https://dl.dropbox.c...89963/pam/4.JPG https://dl.dropbox.c...89963/pam/5.JPG thanks.. the TD managed to pick another one for me, can you guys find any deviations from the v3 promises or is this one legit? https://dl.dropbox.c...89963/pam/1.JPG https://dl.dropbox.c...89963/pam/2.JPG https://dl.dropbox.c...89963/pam/3.JPG https://dl.dropbox.c...89963/pam/4.JPG https://dl.dropbox.c...89963/pam/5.JPG thanks.. Take it and run...thank your dealer a million times over. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD As said by houndoggie: TAKE IT AND RUN : it is perfect, and it has even a SN cosmetically correct (leaving aside the short screw typical of Noob- no solution for that) CONGRATS !!! ALE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fana05 0 Posted December 9, 2012 Really appreciate your expertise Ale. Thanks for chiming in and helping folks out! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
