Freepower 0 Posted February 2, 2013 Hello everyone, in my research on the forum I have trouble understanding the difference or the differences between the H and the factory? I look on the Toro TD's website. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffw69 0 Posted February 2, 2013 Scroll down on this page to 243: http://www.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/reference-pam-review-107365.html Everything you want to know right there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Freepower 0 Posted February 2, 2013 Jeff I registered here and unfortunately I have no access to the pages I do not know why? :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffw69 0 Posted February 2, 2013 I tried to copy and paste: The gen PAM 243 1950 case 1000m Submersible was a newly introduced watch for 2006 I-series. The PAM 243 replaced the now discontinued PAM 087 1000m Submersible. The PAM 087 was affectionately referred to as the 'tuna can' because of its sheer weight and thickness. The PAM 243 1950 case of 44mm made of SS feels like it has a more distributed an even-weighted feel as compared to the PAM87. The PAM 243 is incredibly comfortably, sporty and unique looking and the newly styled ridged rubber sport strap (previously only available on the 47mm sport models like the PAM 194, PAM 187 and Slytech models) is soft and comfortable. It has unidirectional bezel Egiziano style, skeleton hands, automatic movement, small seconds @9, a date window @3 with cyclops and helium valve @9. First years productions were fitted with Tritium dials, but last years Panerai introduced Luminova dials. Bear in mind that for the replicas L and M series, they should be marked L SWISS MADE L Luminova dials. The PAM 243 L-series is one of the best replicas in the market and the versions either from Noob factoty or from H maker are very appreciated. We can consider them as Super reps. Maybe to compete with H maker, recently there is an improved M-series Noob version V2 with some improvements. This version can be even fitted with Swiss movement (very expensive). This link of Puretime has a lot of pics and features of the PAM 243 V2 version: http://puretime.co/product/pam243-m-noob-maker-11-ultimate-edition-on-rubber-strap-v2-a7750-free-strap-tool/ You can see very good pics of PAM 243 V2 from Noob in: http://www.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/pictorial-noob-243-102303.html by babola (But I think that the Babola's last comment in main post is not appropriately proved) http://www.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/panerai-243m-gunny-108784.html?t=108784 by Karesz501 And we have a very good comparison NooV2 –H maker here: http://www.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/pam243-noob-v2-121775.html?p=1197952 by smokiedabong Some considerations about lume in gen - Noob - H maker here: http://www.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/worth-relume-latest-118160.html Dec 2012 Rwolf has detected a little flaw in the beveled of the bezel. It is more wide in the gen: http://www.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/pcteam-pam-243-125784.html?p=1234542 by Rwolf There is a False alarm about the inscription DIVERS in caseback. Some people thought that this inscription was DIVER'S, but it is a false alarm, because gen J-series had really DIVER'S inscription but gen L ad M (like the rep) have DIVERS like the replica. http://www.replica-watch.info/vb/sho...nd-125772.html A very good candidate for a first PAM rep. ......which is from ALE's ultimate PAM guide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mostling 40 Posted February 2, 2013 noobVery helpful...Maybe give some reasons? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Freepower 0 Posted February 2, 2013 Thank you Jeff! So if I understand well the H is very good but the best is the 'noob'! Thank you Pt is not a Td here ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Realism 72 Posted February 2, 2013 Thank you Jeff! So if I understand well the H is very good but the best is the 'noob'! Thank you Pt is not a Td here ? really 100+ posts and still asking this? all trusted dealers are on: http://www.rwg.bz/board/index.php?showtopic=60 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khronos 1,339 Posted February 2, 2013 You can get it from Toro, so why bother with PT.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Freepower 0 Posted February 2, 2013 Thank you Jeff! So if I understand well the H is very good but the best is the 'noob'! Thank you Pt is not a Td here ? really 100+ posts and still asking this? all trusted dealers are on: http://www.rwg.bz/board/index.php?showtopic=60 Ok but the links given is PT... First so good.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Freepower 0 Posted February 2, 2013 You can get it from Toro, so why bother with PT.. Toro can provide a 243 noob? If Yes this is good news for the moment I'm happy with my transaction with Toro! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khronos 1,339 Posted February 2, 2013 http://www.torobravos.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=35_58&product_id=204 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Freepower 0 Posted February 2, 2013 I still have trouble with all the abbreviations! Thank you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Realism 72 Posted February 2, 2013 I still have trouble with all the abbreviations! Thank you SS; stainless steel RU: Rubber... not that hard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffw69 0 Posted February 2, 2013 Thank you Jeff! So if I understand well the H is very good but the best is the 'noob'! Thank you Pt is not a Td here ? I got my noob from Toro. It really is a very well put together watch, I'm sure that you'll love it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffw69 0 Posted February 3, 2013 Jeff pics from iPhone: Thought I had more pics, I will take some today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Freepower 0 Posted February 3, 2013 Really cool cool Ahhhhhhhhh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2200 CET 0 Posted February 3, 2013 That should be my next purchase from Toro. It's just a shame, I haven't done it already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Freepower 0 Posted February 3, 2013 Jeff I love your 243 ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffw69 0 Posted February 3, 2013 Jeff I love your 243 ! Me too. :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hazz 0 Posted February 3, 2013 I for one have the N factory, it is an awseome build. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mysterio 18 Posted February 4, 2013 Noob and V2 if you're wondering between V1 and V2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Louribal 0 Posted February 4, 2013 I also got mine from Toro and lve it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites