JoeyB 0 Posted August 21, 2010 Countries want anti-counterfeit trade deal in September Fri, Aug 20 2010 By Doug Palmer WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Negotiators from the United States, the European Union and nine other countries said on Friday they planned to finish work in September on a proposed pact to crack down on trade in counterfeit and pirated goods. The countries also pledged to publicly release the final text of the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement, which has raised concerns among Internet and digital rights advocates, "before deciding to sign it." U.S. movie, music, software and other copyright-based industries calculate that they lose more than $16 billion in sales each year from pirated versions of their products sold around the world. Many of these counterfeit and pirated goods are made in China. In a joint statement, the participating countries addressed a number of worries that have surfaced about the pact, saying it would not require members of the agreement to take steps that violate "fundamental rights and liberties." Some digital rights advocates feared that provisions aimed at reducing online piracy of music and films could empower Internet providers to deny service to repeat offenders. The trade agreement "will not hinder the cross-border transit of legitimate generic medicines," the joint statement also said. The agreement "will not oblige border authorities to search travelers' baggage or their personal electronic devices for infringing materials," it added. Some were concerned that the agreement might allow customs officials to seize generic versions of patented drugs and to confiscate laptops and music listening devices that contain pirated material. Australia, Canada, Japan, Mexico, Morocco, New Zealand, Singapore, South Korea and Switzerland also are taking part in the talks. President Barack Obama has called the talks a key element of the U.S. strategy for fighting the global trade in fake goods, estimated at more than $200 billion annually. The agreement is expected to mandate that customs officials in all the participating countries have authority to seize counterfeit goods without a request from the right holders or a court order. U.S. officials have said they do not expect the agreement to require changes to U.S. law so it would not have to be approved by Congress. However, that has only heightened concerns about what the pact would require. One tough remaining issue is the 27-nation EU's demand that the pact cover "geographical indicators," which are names for food and alcoholic products drawn from a particular location, such Champagne or Cognac, both in France. But U.S. business groups worry that would mean U.S. products as commonplace as Kraft Parmesan cheese could potentially be treated as illegal items under the pact and subject to seizure by customs officials. The United States believes that issue is resolvable by the time negotiators hold their next round in Japan in late September, said Nefeterius McPherson, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Trade Representative's office. Participants in the negotiations agreed that Japan would host the next negotiating round in September and that they are committed to resolving the remaining substantive issues at that time, officials said. Negotiators made progress this week in all areas of the pact including general obligations, civil enforcement, border measures, criminal enforcement and enforcement measures in the digital environment, the group statement said. (Reporting by Doug Palmer; Editing by Will Dunham) Reuters It seems to be targeting the music industry, but will this affect our "replicas" as well? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trailboss99 997 Posted August 21, 2010 Who knows? I doubt the effect will be huge, China ain't signing. Col. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brightlight 0 Posted August 21, 2010 Reps might be a good investment after all. If they succeed in this, imagine what a Noob Sub will be worth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeyB 0 Posted August 21, 2010 Who knows? I doubt the effect will be huge, China ain't signing. Col. It won't depend on China, but will depend on each country's customs practice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeyB 0 Posted August 21, 2010 Reps might be a good investment after all. If they succeed in this, imagine what a Noob Sub will be worth So, it might be a very good thing to be a wholesaler with Robert. Time to hoard? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gran 205 Posted August 21, 2010 Reps might be a good investment after all. If they succeed in this, imagine what a Noob Sub will be worth Time to hoard? RWGgeeks have been hoarding relica for years.....so only the reps not yet made truly matter to me and they can not be hoarded Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
onzenuub 309 Posted August 21, 2010 Customs wil say "All your reps are belong to us" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Member X 91 Posted August 21, 2010 Slightly worrying language but we will have to see what happens. I can't see customs opening every single package containing a CD or a watch or some pills that has come from the far east - can you imagine how mich manpower that would take? And with no return for their efforts - after all, they won't be able to charge import taxes on any, just confiscate them. I just love the way they pluck figures out the air as to what the rep trade costs. Have they done a survey to see who's bought a rep in place of a gen item? and then factored that up to the whole global population? How many reps are bought because the buyer has little money, not because they have enough for a gen but don't want to pay the price?? I can't see many with the money choosing a rep, it 'wouldn't be the done thing' in their social circles. And those who can't afford them can't be classed as 'lost sales' as the gen sale would never have happened in the first place. I know they have to be seen to be doing something against the counterfeit trade, but it's pretty much a pointless exercise in the end IMO, and is probably likely to make zero financial difference to the companies who want their 'label products' protected and who think they're missing out on $billions of sales , while costing $millions to enforce for no noticeable difference to the world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeyB 0 Posted August 21, 2010 X, you're making sense but this is not just one, but several governments involved. Sense won't come into the picture. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Member X 91 Posted August 21, 2010 lol Sad but true... I would hope that any crackdown would be sharp but then they'd ease off once the headlines had been made. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites