Is this AP 15400 gen or fake?

[checkitout 0]

He was interested in selling his fake PAM 390 while everyone thought it was gen. So...

[court 12]

He was interested in selling his fake PAM 390 while everyone thought it was gen. So...

 

Ahh. That makes a big difference.

 

If he's been outed on one then the advice would be never to trust him on even a Timex.

[James. 4]

OK, so JLC and Omega are gen. That's established.

 

Now the AP, if it is the 15450 I'm not aware that it's repped/repped well. And by repped well as in we'd know about it if it was. The AP logo on the dial, yes it looks a tad funky but wouldn't be the 1st gen to be so. There's also the engraving on the inside of the clasp visible in this photo below. I've not seen a rep bracelet with finishing of that quality before.

 

In regards to the sunken screws, the CB may have been opened by a watch smith or previous owner and then over tightened when screwed back on. Or it could have come back from a service from AP like that.

 

 

I'm saying all three of the watches I've so far seen from this OP by the "suspect" are genuine. Move along folks, nothing to see here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

-edited to add- that clasp is also much better than that on the 15300 I used to own. It all depends on whether this is a 15400 or 450

 

-re-edited to add, if it's a 15400 its a rep IMO. Also, found that this clasp IS repped now...

 

 

fkin get OFF the fence, James

[checkitout 0]

For those of you doesn't know russian:

The guy started a thread where he told everyone that he got a NEW pam 390 from AD in Mauritius.

Some people noticed that:

 

1. There is no AD in Mauritius.

2. Pam 390 is for boutiques only, not for ADs.

3. Pams 390 was all sold out in 2011 so it can't be new.

4. Even if it is new, why AD would sell this watch without any documents?

5. Asso strap on the particular watch seems fake.

6. The dial in gen is closer to flat and the dial on his watch is closer to the sausage.

7. The engraving on CB is different from the gen. Number "2' serves as an example.

 

After the review, the OP was asked several question about this situation. He ignored those questions.

That's why there appeares to be more question about the rest of his watches.

[tito 0]

if it's 15400 supposed to be laser etched line between the A and the P.

JLC and Omega gen

maybe he got screwed upon buying a fake 390

[dixie43 0]

Hi everyone,

 

Being that some of you are on the topic of the 15450ST

 

Can anyone tell me if this one is real? Someone is trying to sell it to me

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vc5m0bapfjnbk98/IMG_2801%20-%20Copy.JPG

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h6huozh1a8r3pur/photo%20-%20Copy.JPG

[avc0002 78]

Who cares?

 

I only care about my own watches to be honest and if he isn't selling them as gens then "no harm no foul" as our cousins across the pond may say.

 

that's exactly what I was thinking. let the guy have his fun.

[NMA 0]

AP15400 is $160, Asian 21J

[tito 0]

Hi everyone,

 

Being that some of you are on the topic of the 15450ST

 

Can anyone tell me if this one is real? Someone is trying to sell it to me

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vc5m0bapfjnbk98/IMG_2801%20-%20Copy.JPG

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h6huozh1a8r3pur/photo%20-%20Copy.JPG

100% real

[dixie43 0]

Thanks for the reply tito!

 

If you don't mind me asking. How are you able to tell?

[myaz 3]

Can anyone tell me if this one is real? Someone is trying to sell it to me

https://www.dropbox....%20-%20Copy.JPG

Engraving on rotor is super sharp, better than reps.

I'd still ask for papers, pay by credit card and ask for right to return pending verification by a local AD.

[dixie43 0]

Thanks Powermax

 

Thats exactly what I'm going to do.

[tito 0]

Thanks for the reply tito!

 

If you don't mind me asking. How are you able to tell?

Movement wise there isn't remotely similar movement to this currently in rep world, superb finishing in both sides indicates that's gen.

Just go to an AD to verify , it will make you sleep better during the nights

[dixie43 0]

Thanks Tito

[KrakDrazh 0]

The lume looks to wide as per rep on the 15400, and it looks like a gap between a and p in the logo instead of the laser etching.

[Ykroxor 0]

Amazed at the depth of the analysis :-)

 

I would have thought they were all gens...what have we established on the AP ?

[checkitout 0]

Hey guys.

A little update to the thread. This guy was investigated by forum members in order to check the authenticity of his watches.

Turns out, AP is definitely fake.

Panerai is fake.

JLC is also fake.

Omega is probably gen.

Edited May 4, 2014 by checkitout

[tito 0]

Hey guys.

A little update to the thread. This guy was investigated by forum members in order to check the authenticity of his watches.

Turns out, AP is definitely fake.

Panerai is fake.

JLC is also fake.

Omega is probably gen.

AP is fake for sure, easy tell bc of the logo as I mentioned before. how can you tall about the Panerai? bc it has a closed case back and the dial seems okay

still think that the JLC is okay, what's the tells?

[g.man 0]

Yes, the quality of that JLC is staggeringly good when you view the full sized pics. Struggling to think of many reps that would bear similar scrutiny.

Edited May 4, 2014 by g.man

[checkitout 0]

Well I don't know much about JLC, especially the part of how did those guys end up concluding that the watch is fake but I can tell for sure about PAM.

The easy tell was lack of the documents. Also the engraving on case back is different from gen. Those are the biggest spots.

I can say about OEM strap. It's also fake.

It's hard to tell about Pam 390 but it's doable)