Ricardo25 0 Posted July 26, 2014 A friend (of a friend...) has offered this watch but I'm NOT knowledgable on Rolex so if anyone would cast their eye if appreciate it. I looked at the pearl as "unusual" but I'll trust you guys.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Markrfc 3 Posted July 26, 2014 Box looks fake not a good start. Need more than one pic. Date is sitting low. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ricardo25 0 Posted July 26, 2014 That's the best pic of a bad bunch, taken from an iPhone.... Pearl? Cyclops position? These jumped out at me immediately! You mentioned box!??? How can you tell from that pic?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themannier 0 Posted July 26, 2014 I have both gen rolex box, this one is not a gen ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
themannier 0 Posted July 26, 2014 The watch looks fake indeed, but its not so easy with this pic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James. 4 Posted July 26, 2014 Wtf is on the hour hand?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
olly593 0 Posted July 26, 2014 Wtf is on the hour hand?! Good spot, that has to be dodgy cutting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nev848 0 Posted July 26, 2014 For what it's worth the pearl surround looks too wide and the green seems too dark compared against the Gen. Also the text doesn't look a bold and crisp as it should. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James. 4 Posted July 26, 2014 There's black shit on the top side of the minute hand as well. I wouldn't buy this with your money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
southall87 0 Posted July 26, 2014 (edited) Defo a rep. The pearl is the biggest give away. Also the markings on the bezel are not dead centre, very noticeable on the 30 and bottom 2 markers in the photo. Also the text on the face is slightly out, the 'u' in sumbariner does not have the little 'flicks', infact on closer inspection none of the letters do. Want to compare for yourself http://www.chrono24.com/en/rolex/submariner-date-50th-anniversary---rolex-warranty--id2835500.htm?id=2835500&picnum=3&tab=pics Edited July 26, 2014 by southall87 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShovelnTC 31 Posted July 26, 2014 I'm no expert but pretty sure that the "square" four bezel insert came on the earliest LV's which this is not as it has rehault engraving. The "black shit" on the hour hand is just lighting as the hand has curvature so the light source is likely from the lower side of the watch, I have seen this lighting effect before. A much better pic would be required before dial print etc could really be compared. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James. 4 Posted July 26, 2014 Still reckon the hands have been tampered with, looks like either a mark or foreign item on the dial next to "certified" which would indicate the watch has been opened. Impossible to tell without additional pics, tell your mate you're interested but want to see a few more images Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StormyNight 0 Posted July 26, 2014 All of the above plus crownguards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShovelnTC 31 Posted July 26, 2014 The more I look at this the more Rep it looks, Hour hand Mercedes lines thickness is too thick, the hour hand base is too wide, cut of the crown teeth etc. Again I'm definitely no expert and I usually refrain from looking for tells but I wouldn't be buying this one unless it was less than $200. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
live1 0 Posted July 26, 2014 (edited) fake its a tw best, aka wm9 v1 not bad looking rep,the crystal is clarkes,you should get rid of the flat 4 insert and get a nice gen insert for this and a gen crystal no ar just lec and remove rehaut engravings Edited July 26, 2014 by live1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mostling 40 Posted July 26, 2014 (edited) Wtf is on the hour hand?! Good spot, that has to be dodgy cutting. Lighting and shadows... Just for comparison a couple of pics of my TC LV with gen insert. Edited July 26, 2014 by mostling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arism 26 Posted July 26, 2014 Rep 100%. The letters on the rehault (closer to 1'o'clock marker) don't line up with the minute markers amongst other tells. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Realism 72 Posted July 26, 2014 pearl, inconsistent lettering size on the bezel, and the cyclops... all nasty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Markrfc 3 Posted July 26, 2014 How much was your mates mate looking for? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
live1 0 Posted July 26, 2014 its worth about 250 bucks used as this exact watch is rare,wm9 v1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
live1 0 Posted July 26, 2014 what movement asian 2836 or gen swiss 2836? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BC1221 44 Posted July 27, 2014 Def a fake. either he was tryin to scam you or he got scammed. shitty either way. the rehaut is all messed up. ROLEXROLEXROLEX should line up dead center with the min markers all the way around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatarms 7,843 Posted July 27, 2014 The date is also low in the window, that along with the pearl are the two things that immediately jump out at me without scrutinizing further. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ricardo25 0 Posted July 27, 2014 How much was your mates mate looking for? He was trying to p/x against a car (!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites