dullidulli 1 Posted July 28, 2014 I'm looking for a gen AP ROO Navy and thus searching thru chrono24.com Found this one: http://www.chrono24.com/en/audemarspiguet/audemars-piguet-royal-oak-offshore-navy--id2861071.htm?dosearch=true&goal_suggest=1&query=audemars+navy&resultview=list&searchexplain=1&sortorder=1&dosearch=true&urlSubpath=/search/index.htm Must be a fake: date too far on the right, dial colour, pushers, aso. Even the deployant clasp has the hole. It is a trusted seller on chrono24, but ... What do you think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zero_deficit 0 Posted July 28, 2014 Yup, definitely a rep. They might've gotten scammed themselves when they bought the watch to be sold as used Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D_Chico 0 Posted July 28, 2014 It might not be the actual watch that they're selling.. I know chrono24 and sometimes the sellers use "stock" photos.. If you're interested just email the buyer and ask for photos of the actual watch..chrono24 definitely doesn't deal with just anyone to be a trusted seller..I think this is just a mistake on the sellers part and they googled the watch in a pinch for quick pics and used the first un-water marked photos they could find..I'm sure if you're truly interested that the seller will help provide whatever you need for authenticity.. Trusted sellers on chrono24 cannot sell anything without the proper documentation.. Good luck! Keep us posted on what you find out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Left Coast Guy 24 Posted July 28, 2014 Yeah, I've found most times Chrono24 doesn't use photos of the actually watch you'll be buying. I don't get how that's even allowed, but feel like it happens all the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zero_deficit 0 Posted July 28, 2014 Oh that's news to me. Even gen forums don't require pretty simple things like tagged photos. We have a pretty solid sales system if you think about it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Niles 0 Posted July 28, 2014 Ive heard too many horror stories about chrono24 - Everything from frankens being sold as gens to straight up reps being sold. Personally I stick to trusted sellers on the gen fora or just bite the bullet and go to an ad when I'm looking for gens. It just isnt worth the risk to save a few bucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Realism 72 Posted July 28, 2014 ^ Niles FTW here... Seller reputations comes first before the watch/ the price Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Left Coast Guy 24 Posted July 28, 2014 I've been looking at gen Speedmasters for a bit, so reached out to Sellers on Chrono24 for more pics, and every time (if I actually got a response....) the pics showed more wear than the photo. Pretty much anytime the cover photo shows is a lightbox photo (i.e. all white background) its a stock photo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Realism 72 Posted July 28, 2014 I've been looking at gen Speedmasters for a bit, so reached out to Sellers on Chrono24 for more pics, and every time (if I actually got a response....) the pics showed more wear than the photo. Pretty much anytime the cover photo shows is a lightbox photo (i.e. all white background) its a stock photo. pricing wise... they are fair but certainly not a screaming BUY... use watchrecon for speedy... they are a pretty common watch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dullidulli 1 Posted July 28, 2014 So best is if interested in a watch to visit the seller and have a look at the watch instead of buying via internet. Btw seller has another navy on chrono24 for sale which seams to be gen. According to his homepage he seems to be an expert so I am quite sure he knows what he is doing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baxter 6 Posted July 28, 2014 My god ... the full works here with a hole in the clasp to top it off ...... the price is about £ 3-4,000 under what it should be as well .............. private listings on C24 have to have two pics set to the same time as the clock face provided but not " trusted sellers/dealers apparently ?? There are too many pics of this watch for it to be anything other than the one on offer.... whichever way round Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
replicastuff 0 Posted July 28, 2014 it looks like proper dealer as welll and not a private seller Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ANDMAN.ELLIPSIS 0 Posted July 29, 2014 As dullidulli said... same dealer has another which appears to be gen... for 11k.... https://www.chrono24...--id2745484.htm Chrono 24 will pretty much accept anyone who pays to be a "Trusted seller" and offer NO warranties whatsoever .... Be afraid of this seller... very afraid... funnily enough no box and papers in the pics of the 10k one... Although 2008... as Baxter said it's a few grand under priced..... Think this dealer may have been stung and is looking for a way out... pusher colour all wrong and surprise surprise .. it's an 'F" for fake series like most of the earlier Noob 42mm versions were Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ANDMAN.ELLIPSIS 0 Posted July 29, 2014 Dulliydulliy... I have a very good AD .... PM me if you want to know any more.... I have bought three AP ROO gens there...in the last 18 monthss you may be surprised.... I msgd that dealer... interesting to see if he gets back to me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trailboss99 994 Posted July 30, 2014 Reported via RWI Twitter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ANDMAN.ELLIPSIS 0 Posted July 30, 2014 Little Bas...tard has got it on ebay as well..... for 998€ more as well.... http://www.ebay.com/itm/380954840789 REPORTED to ebay Also reported to Chrono 24 via email Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
onelund 0 Posted July 30, 2014 Little Bas...tard has got it on ebay as well..... for 998€ more as well.... http://www.ebay.com/itm/380954840789 REPORTED to ebay done the same frikkin bastards scammers everywere Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ANDMAN.ELLIPSIS 0 Posted July 30, 2014 Added this watch to my Chrono24 notepad, so lets see if they do anything to take this listing down.... Or are they just like ebay Just emailed Chrono 24 again and told them i've emailed AP as well with the listing details.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ANDMAN.ELLIPSIS 0 Posted July 30, 2014 nice one Chrono24... swift and decisive ... Ebay should take note Dear Sir, Thank you for your message. You have indicated that you wish to report this watch as suspicious. We have investigated your comments and deactivated this advert. Thank you very much for your support. Best regards, Your Chrono24 Team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ANDMAN.ELLIPSIS 0 Posted July 30, 2014 and it's down off ebay as well... quite quickly.... IF YOU TELL EBAY IT HAS BEEN REPORTED TO AP OR THE MANUFACTURER... THEY SEEM TO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.... WONDER WHY !!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trailboss99 994 Posted July 30, 2014 and it's down off ebay as well... quite quickly.... IF YOU TELL EBAY IT HAS BEEN REPORTED TO AP OR THE MANUFACTURER... THEY SEEM TO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.... WONDER WHY !!!! Oh yes, always inform them that the maker has been informed. It makes the pulldown that much faster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barbra2013 0 Posted August 6, 2014 I'm looking for a gen AP ROO Navy and thus searching thru chrono24.com Found this one: http://www.chrono24....earch/index.htm Must be a fake: date too far on the right, dial colour, pushers, aso. Even the deployant clasp has the hole. It is a trusted seller on chrono24, but ... What do you think? My husband buy n' sells gen watches for many years... and he says "It's always SOMETHING with the Italian sold watches", that is fake parts, or totally fake, or whatever... but very rarly the watch is as described. In EU you should stick to German, Austrian an UK dealers. Those I can recommend you (my husbands nr.1 top dealers, 100% trusted) are Juwelier Burger, fron Netherlands Juwelier Rieger, Germany Uhrenworld, Germany CologneWatchCenter, Germany These are 100% trusted big time dealers in 2nd hand and new high end watches. All of them have in stock multi million dollars worth of 2nd hand watch. They would never risk their business and the service is superb. Allways full oney back guarantee whatever you are not satisfied with (you don't even have to explain it). In Germnay and The Netherlands a 2nd hand dealer in high end watches must give the buyer 1 year warranty of the movement. You feel very safe, and that is why som many people arund the world choose to buy from those 2 countries. You are always protected! We have bought watches from all mentioned dealers, and I guarantee with my name they are 100% legit and honest. Rgds Barbra Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dullidulli 1 Posted August 6, 2014 Thank you Barb for this information, very helpful indeed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
