Aviator 1 Posted November 9, 2014 I'm 99% sure it's a rep. Look at the sunken DW carefully hidden behind the hands... And the subdials spacing is off, as the rep Navi 01 is http://www.ebay.com/itm/Breitling-Ch...item4189b52ba4 Somebody please inform Ebay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takken 0 Posted November 9, 2014 Not sure thats a rep Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g.man 0 Posted November 9, 2014 It's not a watch I know much about, but a little research does indeed suggest the sub-dial spacing is incorrect. I'm sure some of the Breitling experts will chirp in soon enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyKrush 16 Posted November 9, 2014 Agree, the sub dial spacing does look off. The slide rule bezel on the other hand looks spot on and is usually not that good on a rep. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviator 1 Posted November 10, 2014 This kind of spacing was on the Navi's that had white datewheels. Look at the 01 Rep pics, you'll se its Identical to this watch. I'm confident it's a rep. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daytona_Dreamer 0 Posted November 10, 2014 I would never buy from Ebay any item over a grand. Maybe if the seller had a dedicated website, then maybe. Having said that, when you look at what this seller has in their store, it would be odd for them to sell a rep. They have a $30,000 bottle of Dom Perignon for sale along with other high end items. And they have sold watches at $20,000 and $25,000. They also have only positive feedback, if you can believe their satisfied customers. But at the end of the day, you just never know. They may believe it to be gen when it is not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gazzla 23 Posted November 10, 2014 Subdials look too big. I'd say rep. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paparolf 45 Posted November 10, 2014 If no box or papers would not touch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NMA 0 Posted November 10, 2014 If no box or papers would not touch. why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stuvetjee 17 Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) date looks spot on from what i can see. no ''sunken'' effect. But im a total noob when it comes to Breitling :P Edited November 10, 2014 by Stuvetjee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kennycoder 97 Posted November 10, 2014 It's a 100% rep on a gen bracelet. Sunken DW, incorrect spacing for this exact model (incorrect movement) and the ruler lines don't touch the dial. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stuvetjee 17 Posted November 10, 2014 It's a 100% rep on a gen bracelet. Sunken DW, incorrect spacing for this exact model (incorrect movement) and the ruler lines don't touch the dial. Looks like i need glasses thought the datewheel wasnt sunken Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kennycoder 97 Posted November 10, 2014 My navi 01 rep (sold now): DW doesn't look sunken, but it is. It's black on black effect that helps a lot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aviator 1 Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) Thanks Kenny I was suspicious from the first moment I saw this on ebay... As for other items, for example a Vintage Dom Perignon bottle... For those who buy items like this only for purpose of showing off, and not being a Sommelier, somebody can rep and artificially age front sticker with date, but the real thing being a 2004 Dom for couple of 140€... And the buyer wouldn't dream about him being pumped from behind and somebody having just made 29.500 USD... Maybe the seller is legit and he doesn't even know it's a rep... But probably does... Sometimes they get away with it, somebody buys the watch from a reputable seller and the watch never sees service... Edited November 10, 2014 by Aviator Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paparolf 45 Posted November 10, 2014 If no box or papers would not touch. why? If I was going to spend 5K on any watch I would want history, where it was originally bought from and original papers. Without these I would not be sure if it was gen or stolen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paparolf 45 Posted November 10, 2014 Wouldent buy a car with no service history. Same issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NMA 0 Posted November 10, 2014 meh... it's not hard adapting gen box and papers for a watch, ebay is full of genuine boxes and papers for sale, also those watches sell cheaper just because they don't have papers or box, look at this guy, over 10000 watches sold patek to tag only 0,5% got papers or box and he's from Turkey where you can buy fake watches from shops, not 1 single fake http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=istanbul_market&&_trksid=p2047675.l2560&rt=nc&iid=311160476345&sspagename=VIP:feedback&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller so, a fake watch with a gen box and papers, easy to scam you paparolf just check the watch, buy from someone reputable, box and papers not important. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paparolf 45 Posted November 10, 2014 meh... it's not hard adapting gen box and papers for a watch, ebay is full of genuine boxes and papers for sale, also those watches sell cheaper just because they don't have papers or box, look at this guy, over 10000 watches sold patek to tag only 0,5% got papers or box and he's from Turkey where you can buy fake watches from shops, not 1 single fake http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=istanbul_market&&_trksid=p2047675.l2560&rt=nc&iid=311160476345&sspagename=VIP:feedback&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller so, a fake watch with a gen box and papers, easy to scam you paparolf just check the watch, buy from someone reputable, box and papers not important. 15 years of trading on ebay with gen watches not been scammed once. so the way I do it obviously works for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paparolf 45 Posted November 10, 2014 meh... it's not hard adapting gen box and papers for a watch, ebay is full of genuine boxes and papers for sale, also those watches sell cheaper just because they don't have papers or box, look at this guy, over 10000 watches sold patek to tag only 0,5% got papers or box and he's from Turkey where you can buy fake watches from shops, not 1 single fake http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=istanbul_market&&_trksid=p2047675.l2560&rt=nc&iid=311160476345&sspagename=VIP:feedback&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller so, a fake watch with a gen box and papers, easy to scam you paparolf just check the watch, buy from someone reputable, box and papers not important. Dont thik I have ever seen 'Gen papers for sale on ebay mate. 15 years over 200 Gen watches bought on ebay, not been scammed once so whatever forula I use obviously works for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NMA 0 Posted November 10, 2014 meh... it's not hard adapting gen box and papers for a watch, ebay is full of genuine boxes and papers for sale, also those watches sell cheaper just because they don't have papers or box, look at this guy, over 10000 watches sold patek to tag only 0,5% got papers or box and he's from Turkey where you can buy fake watches from shops, not 1 single fake http://feedback.ebay...eedbackAsSeller so, a fake watch with a gen box and papers, easy to scam you paparolf just check the watch, buy from someone reputable, box and papers not important. Dont thik I have ever seen 'Gen papers for sale on ebay mate. 15 years over 200 Gen watches bought on ebay, not been scammed once so whatever forula I use obviously works for me. a lot of box and papers going on for every make, some breits for you http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-BREITLING-BAKELITE-CASE-BOX-PAPERS-AND-MANUAL-PERFECT-COND-/381039130080?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58b7b3b5e0 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BREITLING-BAKELITE-WATCH-BOX-MANUAL-PAPERS-FOR-CHRONO-COLT-/161428535311?pt=UK_Jewellery_Watches_WatchAccessories_SpareParts_SM&hash=item2595e3f80f http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Authentic-Vintage-BREITLING-Wrist-Watch-Wristwatch-Inner-Outer-Box-w-Papers-/251668038500?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a98958364 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Breitling-Chronometre-COSC-Warranty-Booklet-Papers-NO-WATCH-/121464870383?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item1c47ded5ef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paparolf 45 Posted November 10, 2014 meh... it's not hard adapting gen box and papers for a watch, ebay is full of genuine boxes and papers for sale, also those watches sell cheaper just because they don't have papers or box, look at this guy, over 10000 watches sold patek to tag only 0,5% got papers or box and he's from Turkey where you can buy fake watches from shops, not 1 single fake http://feedback.ebay...eedbackAsSeller so, a fake watch with a gen box and papers, easy to scam you paparolf just check the watch, buy from someone reputable, box and papers not important. Dont thik I have ever seen 'Gen papers for sale on ebay mate. 15 years over 200 Gen watches bought on ebay, not been scammed once so whatever forula I use obviously works for me. a lot of box and papers going on for every make, some breits for you http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-BREITLING-BAKELITE-CASE-BOX-PAPERS-AND-MANUAL-PERFECT-COND-/381039130080?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58b7b3b5e0 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BREITLING-BAKELITE-WATCH-BOX-MANUAL-PAPERS-FOR-CHRONO-COLT-/161428535311?pt=UK_Jewellery_Watches_WatchAccessories_SpareParts_SM&hash=item2595e3f80f http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Authentic-Vintage-BREITLING-Wrist-Watch-Wristwatch-Inner-Outer-Box-w-Papers-/251668038500?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a98958364 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Breitling-Chronometre-COSC-Warranty-Booklet-Papers-NO-WATCH-/121464870383?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item1c47ded5ef I stand corrected mate, never seen before, however never looked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takken 0 Posted November 10, 2014 Is it just the light on the pic or does the sub dials hands on the watch look like they are black? Ask the seller for a movement pic or two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheesemonger 0 Posted November 11, 2014 Bracelet pins bother me as well. Some too sunken and these are usually more flush with the side of the bracelet. And the caseback has the "right Breit scratch" in the center. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Higs 73 Posted November 11, 2014 I'm 99% sure it's a rep. Look at the sunken DW carefully hidden behind the hands... And the subdials spacing is off, as the rep Navi 01 is http://www.ebay.com/itm/Breitling-Ch...item4189b52ba4 Somebody please inform Ebay. and gone.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
